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==Citing==
* [[User talk:Prophecy|Main talk page]]
Actually, [http://www.boobpedia.com/butler/index.php?title=Xanthia_Doll&diff=44309&oldid=33651 my citations] are pretty basic, especially compared with [[Special:Contributions/Dekkappai|Dekkappai]]'s. :) [[User:The Honorable|The Honorable]] 01:16, 12 April 2008 (EDT)
* [[User talk:Prophecy/Archive 1|Archive 1]] from 2008-04-12 to 2008-08-05
* [[User talk:Prophecy/Archive 2|Archive 2]] from 2008-08-05 to 2008-12-07


I just wanted to let you know that you're doing a fine job. The article on [[Arkadia]], for one, is very nicely done. [[User:The Honorable|The Honorable]] 21:39, 17 April 2008 (EDT)
== Fishnets ==
I've been noticing the uploading of fishnet clothing pictures. Some pin up article have pictures of them in fishnets. [[Lorraine Burnett]] and [[Marge Mellor]], come to mind.[[User:Apara|Apara]] 23:10, 9 December 2008 (EST)
:Oh ok, well if you needed more, then you know where to look....[[User:Apara|Apara]] 23:27, 9 December 2008 (EST)


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== Movie Pages ==


Thank you! It was my first article. I don't know how these talk pages work so far, so this is a test. I hope you get my reply.
For a few of the articles, I want to mention that the performer performed in the infamous pardory ''Who's Naylin' Paylin?.'' How do you make those pages?  [[User:Cost|Cost]] 18:37, 10 December 2008 (EST)
:Yes. I forgot to add that... [[User:Cost|Cost]] 18:42, 10 December 2008 (EST)


Hm... I got here because I'm often using Boobpedia as a reference for my Natural Big Tits Directory I'm running on FreeOnes:
== Booble Girls ==


Current version (may be followed by newer posts in the future):
A [[Boobpedia:Suggestions|request]] has been made for a [[:Template:DanniGirls|DanniGirls]]-type template for [[:Category:Booble Cover Girls|:Category:Booble Cover Girls]], if you're interested (and don't have any other projects you're working on :) ) [[User:The Honorable|The Honorable]] 22:09, 15 December 2008 (EST)
http://board.freeones.com/showthread.php?p=2107943#post2107943


As you can see, I have listed many many models who aren't on Boobpedia yet, so now that I managed to write my first article, I hope that I'll find the time to write more. I only have to take care that I do not make circle references. :-)
== Supporting Actresses and Sequels ==


I have an important question/suggestion:
What do we do with supporting actresses? Should we include them in the template or just the article? The two films that have this are ''[[Pirates]]'' and ''[[Pirates II: Stagnetti's Revenge]]''.


What always struck me is that Boobpedia hasn't got a category for "Bra size". It's always difficult to add a bra size (consisting of band and cup size) to an article, because it doesn't really fit in the "measurements" entry, and in "cup size" it's not correct either. But I think it's very important. A woman wearing a 40D bra hasn't got really big breasts compared with her overall body measurements, but a 32D cup can be considered as quite big. So my suggestion is:
The latter is also the sequel to the former. Should I put it type=episode in the template for them?


Why not make a template for the bra size? (I don't know how to do this so far) The cup size can be included in this template, so it remains searchable. Something like:
[[User:Cost|Cost]] 13:11, 25 December 2008 (EST)
:Yeah, that's what I was planning on doing too. [[User:Cost|Cost]] 02:04, 29 December 2008 (EST)


{ { brasize|band=34|cup=D } }
== Since you started the article ==
You probably have something to say, [[Talk:Madonna]]. [[User:Apara|Apara]] 03:07, 4 January 2009 (EST)


The band size can remain optional (if possible), so if people only know the cup size, they can just enter the cup size.
==Micro Tits Ciccone==
Sure, but she has not looked like the black and white photo for almost 25 years, the new photo is what she looks like. Madonna is NOT a C and barely ever was, in her early days she was virtually flat chested. I have sent pics to an editor to show you what I mean. Cone bras does not a bust make. My text is very relevant to boobpedia so I'm disappointed that is deleted. The article reads like a madonna fan cut and paste-this is a site about big boobs not over hyped ones. Also anyone who would use Lynsey in the same sentence madonna does not know their boobs. madonna needs to be compared to smaller women. Just an opinion. BreastKing 04:03, 4 January 2009 (EST)


This way we could avoid all the various entries in the "measurements" field. Correct data for a woman with a 34D bra would be for example:
Why was the picture deleted? That is WHAT SHE LOOKS LIKE.
BreastKing 04:03, 4 January 2009 (EST)


'''measurements: 38-26-36''' (with no cup or bra size added)


'''bra size: 34D''' (because 34 + D as fourth letter makes 38, following the generally known method to calculate a bra size which Boobpedia lists itself)
Hi, it's breastking, I responded to you on the madonna page. i wrote most of Russ Meyer's wikipedia page btw. Madonna is the Anti-Super Vixen in every way shape and especially form! Best WishesBreastKing 07:20, 5 January 2009 (EST)


People could still enter "free" data if they are not familiar with bra sizes, but for those who like to be correct, the bra size template would help a lot. I think a page named "boobpedia" should offer this possibility.
I responded again on the Mandonna page.Regarding my great article on Russ Meyer from wikipedia, you are extremely incorrect and lying as there are tons of notations and citations on my wikipedia article, THAT I PUT IN, that's why I was awarded my Barn Star for it as it was only two paragraphs when I got there.Perhaps you are not clear as to what my wikipedia name is? I also wrote most of the other Russ Meyer related pages correcting mistakes.
http://www.smh.com.au/ffxImage/urlpicture_id_1037490053060_2002/11/17/18ent_madonna.jpg


Regards
==Happy New Year==
Happy New Year to you too, Prophecy! I don't know if you've noticed, but we received some big news for [[Fuko]] on the new year-- She's going all-out AV. (Personally, I'd prefer just nude-posing, but I'll take AV without complaint if it comes to that ;) About other editors, yes, I see what you mean... I haven't followed what this is all about, but there was a certain editor at WP involved in the Russ Meyer page who was also changing Fuko's measurements at random, calling them "real" measurements, but based on pure guess-work... I hope this sort of bat-shittery isn't coming over here... One of WP's bad habits is carrying assumptions of good faith beyond the breaking point for disruptive users, while being unnecessarily harsh on good contributors. I trust BP's administrators will not fall into that trap though :) Looking forward to another year of good work with you. Cheers! [[User:Dekkappai|Dekkappai]] 09:40, 6 January 2009 (EST)
:I fear it's getting even worse than pixels. You notice the stars over her nipples on the video cover, I assume? There's a new wave of censorship sweeping Japan. I hope that doesn't mean AV DVD covers are going to start looking like that!  :-( [[User:Dekkappai|Dekkappai]] 22:15, 6 January 2009 (EST)
::Hi, Prophecy-- I have a question on [http://www.boobpedia.com/butler/index.php?title=Harumi_Nemoto&diff=94725&oldid=94675 this edit] at [[Harumi Nemoto]]. Did you mean to re-locate the References section up from the bottom? If so, why? I thought we'd agreed References at bottom was to be a BP-standard. [[User:Dekkappai|Dekkappai]] 22:49, 6 January 2009 (EST)
::I notice you removed the Ja-wiki link in the lead with that edit also. I've been including that as a standard format in the Japanese model articles... [[User:Dekkappai|Dekkappai]] 22:51, 6 January 2009 (EST)
:::Oops. It was Apara. [[User:Dekkappai|Dekkappai]] 23:12, 6 January 2009 (EST)
==A weighty issue==
Hi, Prophecy. I've got an interesting problem here... I've just discovered that two of "my" models are the same person... She used the name [[Pine Miyazaki]] when she was a plump-ish big-bust model for [[Cinema Unit GAS]], then she put on some weight and became a full BBW model under the name [[Yui Kyomoto]]... So her two infoboxes are the same in many points, but very different in other points-- waist and hip measurements particularly. What to do? I'm going to go ahead and put two separate infoboxes in the merged article, but that looks clunky, and makes the "Alias" field redundant... Any better suggestions? (Incidentally, I find she made quite a few videos under a third name-- whether that involves any significant body changes, I don't know yet.) [[User:Dekkappai|Dekkappai]] 00:04, 13 January 2009 (EST)
:I've merged the two into her first stage name-- [[Momoko Okada]]-- and, again, their are significant physical differences, though she is the same model. Apparently she's been gaining weight throughout her career, beginning in 2004. The gain is reflected in the cup-size also-- from G (Japanese) to J. (And a very pretty girl, thin or fat, in my book :-) Tell me if the article can be tidied up in any way-- looks awfully cluttered to me, with three infoboxes, but I don't know how else to get around this problem. [[User:Dekkappai|Dekkappai]] 00:55, 13 January 2009 (EST)
::Hi, Prophecy... Well, I'd agree with you normally-- such as with your Lindsay example-- but in this case, the actress is almost making a different "character" for each name/weight change. The data within each name seems to be consistent, but once she has upped her weight, she changes name, character, and the info that goes with it... Yet she is still the same person, so I don't think separate articles on each one would be the answer either... How about making separate sections within the article for each "identity", with each one having its own biobox? [[User:Dekkappai|Dekkappai]] 16:40, 13 January 2009 (EST)
:::Ah... can't relocate the biobox to another section? That will be a problem... I haven't dug into this case enough to be 100% sure, but I suspect I will find that other data does change also... height might stay the same, but birthplace may change, as, obviously, the name does... I'll make this article a research project-- this model has caught my eye in the past, in all three of her incarnations as a pleasing subject for further research :-) -- and I will fill you in on the details once I have found the information... Maybe three separate, inter-linked articles will be the best way to go? [[User:Dekkappai|Dekkappai]] 16:48, 13 January 2009 (EST)
::::I agree, it would be best to be in one article. But it's true, this is an unusual case. She's obviously the same person, but she's creating a different persona for each physical change... Like I say, I'll research her, and think more about it. Once I get more info on the subject I'll ask you, and maybe get the Admins involved too. Got to go now-- cheers! [[User:Dekkappai|Dekkappai]] 16:54, 13 January 2009 (EST)
==Comparison==
Hi Prophecy-- I'm currently editing where I don't have the leisure of doing any image-viewing... Hence, the harmless category-adding and linking edits. I'll check tonight (my night-- morning, or whatever for you-- about six-seven hours from now). [[User:Dekkappai|Dekkappai]] 16:31, 15 January 2009 (EST)
:I had a look for myself. They seem to have the same eyebrows (which isn't much). But I can't really see any similarities at all. I tried looking for birth marks/moles, but couldn't find any. [[User:Apara|Apara]] 19:25, 15 January 2009 (EST)


Prophecy
== Spam blacklist ==


: I'll have to think about that, as I'm not sure I understand bra sizes well enough to do something like that yet. :)  Also, I've taken bnarod.ru off the spamfilter for now -- I assume they're just a free hosting site? [[User:The Honorable|The Honorable]] 09:13, 19 April 2008 (EDT)
I've taken it off the list. [[User:The Honorable|The Honorable]] 18:53, 27 January 2009 (EST)


:: Thanks for Rimma! I just edited the page now. As for the bra sizes: Perhaps I'll make a suggestion when I know how to do templates. Or am I not allowed to define one as a normal user? --[[User:Prophecy|Prophecy]] 14:09, 19 April 2008 (EDT)
==Bad news==
Hi, Prophecy. I see you've been busy at work here. I've been trying to keep up with the Japanese series too-- lots of great stuff going on over there these days :) Horrible news though: My home computer became basically useless last night. The system's all screwed up-- way out of date anyway... I now have no Internet, to say the least. No image capabilities, and probably not even able to do text editing... Also I see they've now disabled image downloading at the public computers I use too... So, I'm going to be, basically, unable to contribute here except for text, and that only very rarely... I'll do what I can to keep up with things until I can get the home computer situation fixed! I'll try to check in as often I can, and keep a record of what's going on with the Japanese videos/actresses. [[User:Dekkappai|Dekkappai]] 15:42, 23 March 2009 (EDT)
:Jeez, I didn't know you'd take the news so hard! I think I've got the problem fixed now, so work on the Japanese boob community should re-commence tonight or tomorrow. Glad to be back! [[User:Dekkappai|Dekkappai]] 16:06, 26 March 2009 (EDT)
::No problem-- just kidding above :) The magnificent [[Mitsumi Nanao]] caused the trouble-- I was trying to view a video of hers, and downloaded software that screwed up some of my system files. Anyway, now that I've got Internet again, I'll dig back in on Mitsumi! Regards. [[User:Dekkappai|Dekkappai]] 22:11, 26 March 2009 (EDT)
==Video Company/Studio/Label template?==
Hi Prophecy. I noticed your nice manufacturer templates, but couldn't find a similar one for video (or film) studios & labels. I'd like to put a template, or at least the company logo on appropriate pages-- I've started quite a few on Japanese studios & labels. Should I just use the manufacturer template? Or would it be worthwhile to create a new film or video studio template? [[User:Dekkappai|Dekkappai]] 18:14, 27 March 2009 (EDT)
:OK-- I'll just do the logos for now, but more specific templates are something to think about for future projects. Although I suspect a lot of the general studio information is going to be difficult to find on Japanese subjects. Regards. [[User:Dekkappai|Dekkappai]] 18:57, 27 March 2009 (EDT)
==The template problem==
Hi Prophecy. About the filmography template problem: More and more actress pages load sooo slowly due to the templated filmographies. At [[Mitsumi Nanao]], I'm experimenting with a new format. Just a text filmography in the actress' article, and a link to the "Main filmography" article at the top. Do you think that works? [[User:Dekkappai|Dekkappai]] 00:30, 1 April 2009 (EDT)
:Good-- I guess I'll start doing that as a standard for filmographies over, maybe ten entries? And the template entries on the actress' main page will be just those in which she is the star. I don't want to get back to putting in those cumbersome tables again, so just a text entry with a link to a full, templated filmography should work. Regards. [[User:Dekkappai|Dekkappai]] 10:51, 3 April 2009 (EDT)


::: Sure, regular users can create templates too. I suggest studying Wikipedia's templates -- since there are so many, there's bound to be something there that you can build on. [[User:The Honorable|The Honorable]] 01:32, 20 April 2008 (EDT)
== removed photos ==


==Biobox==
hi prophecy, the removals were requested by a copyright agent working on behalf of one or more of the photographers. --[[User:Hexvoodoo|Hexvoodoo]] 13:14, 28 April 2009 (EDT)
I've added ModelMayhem (and YouTube) to the biobox; just add modelmayhem=whatever-their-id-number-is. [[User:The Honorable|The Honorable]] 13:39, 20 April 2008 (EDT)
:that agent referred to her by one of her stage names. i assume he searches the internet for all images of her using that stage name. since i have no idea which photographers the agent represents, i don't know whether a photo from a different photographer would trigger another email. it's best to leave that page alone for now. --[[User:Hexvoodoo|Hexvoodoo]] 13:38, 30 April 2009 (EDT)


: This is great, thank you! Just a little thing: Model Mayhem is written in two words (see top banner at their page, only the URL is written in one word. Would be nice if you adapted this in the biobox text (ModelMayhem -> Model Mayhem). Thanks! [[User:Prophecy|Prophecy]] 15:52, 20 April 2008 (EDT)
== Template Lists ==


== Quotations ==
Do you know how to make template list, like the [[DanniGirls]] one? [[User:Cost|Cost]] 10:25, 8 May 2009 (EDT)
Biobox new
:Hi, Prophecy. Cost pointed me to these list templates, which I haven't used yet. I couldn't think of an immediate use for them for my own work, but I have found a site which lists sales rankings (popularity) of busty/BBW models. Maybe this template would work for creating a list/template of their #1 model for each month... One thing though-- the list template itself doesn't seem to have much advantage over just listing the models manually. (Obviously, the template that goes on the model pages does offer an advantage.) But if there would be a way to add a thumbnail photo of the model in the straight lists, as at [[DanniGirls]], I think that would be a significant advantage. Is it possible? [[User:Dekkappai|Dekkappai]] 16:10, 8 May 2009 (EDT)
::Right now, the [[DanniGirl]] templates only go from 2006-2008. I was planning on adding the 2009 models to it. Other list templates, like the playboy and penthouse one can also be updated. [[User:Cost|Cost]] 17:12, 8 May 2009 (EDT)
:::That worked. I'll do some of the other lists as well. I just saw the real penthouse list and it goes up to 1969... I have my work cut out for me. Anyways, by posting on the suggestions page, I'm hoping other volunteers and lurkers will get encouraged to take the initiative to contribute. Hopefully it works.... [[User:Cost|Cost]] 17:24, 8 May 2009 (EDT)
::Hi again, Prophecy. Thanks for the explanation... I'm not sure I follow though. I don't think it was the images that caused the template/server problem. Remember our Uschi filmography test? That one had no images at all-- or maybe just one or two. I don't think it would be necessary at all to make sure that the biobox and the template photos are the same, so there's no need-- at least in my mind-- to make the biobox an all-purpose template. I would think just keeping the list template and adding a photo parameter would do... and wouldn't add much more stress to the server than the list template already has. Or am I not following? Anyway, I'll keep this in mind to try out for that "Top model of the month" list later on. Oh-- and Cost-- Sorry I misunderstood you. I thought you were asking if I knew how to do the template, meaning that I should give it a try-- I didn't realize you were asking for advice. But I've never used it anyway, so Prophecy is the right guy to ask :-) Cheers! [[User:Dekkappai|Dekkappai]] 03:28, 9 May 2009 (EDT)


Italicized quotes are fine. Personally, I prefer indented but non-italicized, but italicized quotes are so common here and on Wikipedia that it's pointless for me to singlehandedly try and change things. :) [[User:The Honorable|The Honorable]] 19:22, 21 April 2008 (EDT)
== Biobox new ==
Hi Prophecy,
I am trying to use the Biobox new template in another wiki. I am using all the related templates as well as the monobook and common.css configuration. But I'm facing a problem. In the performances section even if i leave these fields empty the keywords continue appearing (Topless, Bush, Full frontal, Pink, Masturbation, Dildo, Fisting, etc.) and the categories are also being added at the bottom.
It's a brilliant template. I want to use it and properly attribute it to Boobpedia.
Do you have any idea why is this happening?
Thank you in advance--[[User:Yorgos|Yorgos]] 11:10, 8 May 2009 (EDT)<br>
Hi Prophecy, thank you for your kindness and your offer to help me. What I've seen (after testing) is that the template is working fine in MediaWiki 1.13.3 (or earlier)  but it won't work in 1.14. Can you think of a quick fix for that or maybe guide me towards a solution? Thank you again. Have a nice day! --[[User:Yorgos|Yorgos]] 03:37, 12 May 2009 (EDT)<br>
I have further problems of compatibility between the template and Mediawiki's version :( <br>
Look [http://morfogenesis.com/index.php?title=Template:Biobox_new this], for example<br>
Let me check the issue and I'll call you back. Many thanks! --[[User:Yorgos|Yorgos]] 06:30, 13 May 2009 (EDT)<br>
Hi Prophecy, any news about the issue on Biobox new? Thanx. --[[User:Yorgos|Yorgos]] 04:57, 25 May 2009 (EDT)


== FreeOnes ==
== Tattoo category? ==
Either of your suggestions is fine. I don't think FreeOnes has an affiliate program of their own; I always assumed they were mostly a collection of affiliate links to other sites. Not that there's anything wrong with that... [[User:The Honorable|The Honorable]] 21:53, 23 April 2008 (EDT)
Hey Prophecy, long time, no talk.


==Redirects==
I wanted to ask your opinnion on a category of women here on Boobpedia with tattoos. You think this would be relevant or a waste of server space? [[User:Apara|Apara]] 02:58, 13 May 2009 (EDT)
For identical/similar names that are uncommon, like [[Samantha Fox]], I usually do a disambiguation page à la Wikipedia. For common first names,  disambiguation pages probably wouldn't get kept up to date, so I've been moving articles about, say, "Jane," to "Jane (example.com)" and deleting the redirect, so that someone searching for "Jane" gets the search result, and not just whichever Jane happened to get their article at [[Jane]]. (If I'm not explaining this well, let me know. :) [[User:The Honorable|The Honorable]] 20:44, 24 April 2008 (EDT)
:Thanks for the feedback, I was thinking the same as you were. [[User:Apara|Apara]] 01:47, 15 May 2009 (EDT)
* That's exactly how I would handle similar/identical names. Ideally there would be *some* way to differentiate multiple Isabellas; if there's only one who's well known as just "Isabella," "Isabella (adult model)" might work as an article title. Also, how many SuicideGirls have "common" names? Reagan and Apnea come to mind... :)
==Japanese bra sizes==
Thanks, Prophecy-- Actually, I'd seen your work in this area and was about to leave a comment. Sorry, I don't know how the Japanese sizes convert-- My wife is Korean, and they use A-B-C over there for cup-sizes, but metric for the measurements. (B was the highest commonly-available size at local shops when I lived there, so my wife had to make her lingerie purchases around the U.S. posts ;-). One thing I wanted to point out about the Japanese though is that they give an upper-bust, and an under-bust measurement, which is the ribcage. (This would be very useful in calculating actual boobage-- and I remember for a short time in the late '80s there was a time when magazines would give a difference between the two in their statistics). For example [http://www.moodyz.com/actress/-/detail/=/id=4732/ THIS] profile of [[Aki Tomosaki]] gives her bust measurement (100cm) and then cup-underbust measurement (G-cup, 70cm). This is a fairly common way of listing measurements-- especially with the bustier models-- so implementing it in your template might be a good idea. Sorry I couldn't be more help in this fascinating area of research, but I encourage you to continue, and will take time to look into your template and its usage. Cheers! [[User:Dekkappai|Dekkappai]] 18:26, 30 April 2008 (EDT)
:I'm looking around Google for some help here, Prohphecy-- [http://www.japan-guide.com/forum/quereadisplay.html?0+48520 THIS] might help you out. [[User:Dekkappai|Dekkappai]] 18:40, 30 April 2008 (EDT)
::Thanks, Prophecy-- Feel free to add your template to the articles. The G/H-cup difference in Aki Tomosaki's profile is probably because I got the H off another profile. I believe in sticking pretty close to the sources, but if one source is more accurate than another, feel free to use the correct one. If the official profile is "incorrect," though-- I think like John Ford in ''The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance''-- "When the legend becomes fact, print the legend." If "fact" differs from the profile, I say we still put the profile measurement in the article, maybe with a note as to its accuracy... No big deal to me either way though. [[User:Dekkappai|Dekkappai]] 19:03, 30 April 2008 (EDT)
::No-- that G does mean cup-size in Aki Tomosaki's profile. I don't know where I got the H, maybe a video cover... Right-- [[Fuko]]'s P-cup is a publicity gimmick. [[Ran Masaki]] probably pioneered the bust-size exaggeration in Japan. I think the bust-exaggeration really started with [[Kimiko Matsuzaka]]'s "110.7" centimeters, which was a typographical pun on "ii onna"-- "Good woman." Then the cup-exaggeration thing really started with [[Mariko Morikawa]]'s "Q-cup", which was, no doubt, a take-off on the old ''Ultra-Q'' TV science-fiction show, the precursor to ''Ultra Man''. I guess companies need their gimmicks to sell, but all these models are perfectly lovely as is, without the hype. A Fuko by any other cup-letter would be just as sweet... :) OK, I have to log off for the day-- keep up the good work! [[User:Dekkappai|Dekkappai]] 19:38, 30 April 2008 (EDT)


== Bra size template ==
== Fair use images ==


Allow me to give you a hearty "holy crap!" :) Nice job.
Hi. Under the terms of fair use images, they should only be used within articles. Therefore please could you remove any fair use images on your user page. Thanks. [[User:Boobs Online|Boobs Online]] 18:16, 31 December 2012 (EST)
 
I can protect the template from being edited, but this would lock you out too (of course, Hexvoodoo or I could unlock it for you if you needed to edit it). Let me know if you do want it protected, and it will be done. [[User:The Honorable|The Honorable]] 21:08, 30 April 2008 (EDT)
 
==Metric / U.S. bras ==
Hi Prophecy-- I've noticed a couple of the Japanese subjects have the Metric (G, for example) cup-size in the infobox, and then the U.S. size ("D cup") at the bottom under categories. This seems a good compromise on the situation, since they're known by their metric measurements to fans of the genre, and U.S. fans, just looking for a nice, Japanese D-cup, can still find them by browsing the category. Sound OK? [[User:Dekkappai|Dekkappai]] 16:53, 2 May 2008 (EDT)
 
==Engrish==
Tragically, yes, I am a native English speaker. Who hasn't been getting enough sleep lately. :) [[User:The Honorable|The Honorable]] 23:55, 2 May 2008 (EDT)
 
== Heading titles ==
 
Your article format is fine. I don't have a strong preference for what to call the section of the article about  posing in front of a camera, but you raise a good point about "Career" being too broad. My [[Naughty Alysha]] changes were due to sloppy reverting, not because of any preference about the section title. [[User:The Honorable|The Honorable]] 10:21, 3 May 2008 (EDT)
 
You're right about the italics; I missed the italics on "RadioX." With regards to the photographer stuff, a biobox just for photographers might be a good idea. What are your plans with the <nowiki>{{photographer}}</nowiki> template? [[User:The Honorable|The Honorable]] 20:12, 3 May 2008 (EDT)
 
Instead of a biobox just for photographers, I've been thinking about a general "non-performers" biobox that could also be used for directors, artists, etc. Also, you've done some impressive work on the photographer templates, though I worry that you're getting carried away from the main point of Boobpedia, i.e., boobs, and their owners. :) [[User:The Honorable|The Honorable]] 13:46, 4 May 2008 (EDT)
 
My idea for the nonperformer biobox is to use a cut-down version of the regular biobox -- taking out measurements, what sex acts they've performed on camera :) , etc. That way, if they do go in front of the camera, an editor can change the template name from [currently-untitled-biobox] to biobox, add the new fields, and it's done. [[User:The Honorable|The Honorable]] 14:58, 4 May 2008 (EDT)
 
== Media licensing ==
 
For Creative Commons photos, I would upload it with "none selected" for the license, and then add the appropriate CC info. Also, I'll see if we can add Creative Commons as a proper menu option. [[User:The Honorable|The Honorable]] 20:51, 5 May 2008 (EDT)
* Choosing "none selected" doesn't add a template, like the other options do. If you add the CC license information in the summary, or go back and add it after uploading, all should be fine. [[User:The Honorable|The Honorable]] 18:47, 6 May 2008 (EDT)
 
== Pin up models ==
Thanks Prophecy, I try my best what I can gather and share it here on Boobpedia. I'm sure everyone here appreciates my work, but thanks for the acknowledgement.-Apara 20:32, 6 May 2008 (EDT)
 
==Angelique==
I tend to agree with you -- I think the biobox photo should be representative of how they are best known. But I'll let you and Biguns sort it out. :) [[User:The Honorable|The Honorable]] 15:04, 7 May 2008 (EDT)
 
==Angelique photo== 
Where can I find the photo spread of Angelique in latex? I like all of the work you have done to her page! [[User:Msjayhawk|Msjayhawk]] 21:28, 14 May 2008 (EDT)
 
== Home page ==
I had to call it something, and that was the first thing that came to mind. :) How about "official website"? [[User:The Honorable|The Honorable]] 16:46, 7 May 2008 (EDT)
 
Specifically assigning a color for the table header seems to work. I put in #ccc just to get a different color, but you can play with the color if you want. [[User:The Honorable|The Honorable]] 22:19, 7 May 2008 (EDT)
 
== Steve Diet Goedde bio ==
It looks like the Wikipedia bio is mostly plagiarized from his site. I would suggest stripping it down to something more basic until an original bio can be written. [[User:The Honorable|The Honorable]] 19:57, 8 May 2008 (EDT)
 
== photographer categorization ==
 
hi prophecy. i wasn't able to work on boobpedia for some time, so i'm just now catching up. i have seen your work on putting photographer categories in model pages. may i suggest that these categories be named slightly differently. for example, from [[:Category:James Bertoni]] to [[:Category:James Bertoni models]], and [[James Bertoni]] to [[James Bertoni models]]. we have done this for directors, and it's best to keep things consistent. it's also less confusing than having just a male name as a category. --[[User:Hexvoodoo|Hexvoodoo]] 19:59, 13 May 2008 (EDT)
 
== tables ==
I think that's caused by Wikipedia and Boobpedia using different CSS. You'd have to ask [[User:Hexvoodoo|Hexvoodoo]], because my CSS knowledge is limited, and I don't think I have access to stylesheets here anyway. :)
 
There's no policy here about table formatting -- [[Big Naturals]] has internal borders (sort of). [[User:The Honorable|The Honorable]] 16:07, 18 May 2008 (EDT)
 
== Vanessa (Montagne) ==
I don't know. I've asked on [[User:Vanessa|Vanessa]]'s user page. [[User:The Honorable|The Honorable]] 19:45, 21 May 2008 (EDT)
* Good detective work. [[User:The Honorable|The Honorable]] 20:29, 22 May 2008 (EDT)
 
If Vanessa deletes the information again without explanation, I'll block the account from editing. That should get her(?) attention. [[User:The Honorable|The Honorable]] 13:31, 26 May 2008 (EDT)
 
== nude model redirection ==
 
since there are many articles that use the [[nude model]] redirection, and it has always been used in place of adult model, i don't think we should redirect that to fine art nude models. in fact, we probably shouldn't change the redirect for [[nude]] either, to keep things consistent. in cases where we are referring to fine art nudes we can expressly state that. --[[User:Hexvoodoo|Hexvoodoo]] 16:39, 22 May 2008 (EDT)
 
:there are a lot of current articles using [[nude model]] - see [[Special:Whatlinkshere/Nude_model]]. --[[User:Hexvoodoo|Hexvoodoo]] 16:46, 22 May 2008 (EDT)
 
::even though all of them could be changed, i don't think we should. most people outside the fine arts community think nude model is the same as adult model, and it's also very descriptive to add "art" or "artistic" for links where they are supposed to go to fine art nude model. --[[User:Hexvoodoo|Hexvoodoo]] 16:50, 22 May 2008 (EDT)
 
:::yes the category themselves don't need work, but the very fact that we have so many instances of [[nude model]] referring to adult models signifies that they are commonly (mis)understood as the same thing. academically you may be right, but realistically we have to follow the masses. in places where you want [[nude]] or [[nude model]] to go to fine art nude models, it's not a bad idea to add art or fine art to the terms anyway. --[[User:Hexvoodoo|Hexvoodoo]] 16:58, 22 May 2008 (EDT)
 
::::for one, sometimes an editor uses nude model to break up the monotony of saying adult model all the time. secondly, it's not really about a battle of the percentages. it doesn't have to be 50 50 in usage for us to consider the two terms as equivalents. thirdly, i know that you are willing to do the work, but i always have to consider the impact this has on the project and the visitors. while it only helps to add art or artistic as descriptive terms, redirecting all "nude" or "nude model" to fine art nude models has the potential to confuse readers. i don't think these terms should have their redirections changed. --[[User:Hexvoodoo|Hexvoodoo]] 17:12, 22 May 2008 (EDT)
 
::::one last point for consideration is this [http://www.google.com/trends?q=adult+model,nude+model&ctab=0&geo=US&date=all&sort=0 google trends]. there are several times more searches for nude model than for adult model. since it's obvious that more people search for porn than fine art nudes, the masses do in fact consider nude as a porn/adult term. --[[User:Hexvoodoo|Hexvoodoo]] 17:18, 22 May 2008 (EDT)
 
:::::i like your last idea. that should work well. --[[User:Hexvoodoo|Hexvoodoo]] 17:28, 22 May 2008 (EDT)
 
::::::is there a way to show that message only when someone gets to that page through the [[nude model]] redirection? right now it's there even when visiting [[:category:adult models|adult models]] directly. --[[User:Hexvoodoo|Hexvoodoo]] 17:59, 22 May 2008 (EDT)
 
== Biobox ==
I've added the BGAFD to the biobox.
 
Also, any suggestions for the biobox layout are welcome. There are probably better and more compact ways to present the information; it's just a matter of someone figuring it out. [[User:The Honorable|The Honorable]] 21:28, 22 May 2008 (EDT)
 
== .svg ==
 
That's Hexvoodoo's area -- I don't have access to any of that stuff. [[User:The Honorable|The Honorable]] 18:03, 23 May 2008 (EDT)
 
== Test biobox categories ==
You could comment out the categories in your test biobox...
:<nowiki><!-- [[Category:YouTube]] --></nowiki>
...and then re-enable them when you need to test them.  [[User:The Honorable|The Honorable]] 16:41, 24 May 2008 (EDT)
 
== Height template ==
Done. Be sure to let me know when you're done tweaking it. [[User:The Honorable|The Honorable]] 21:03, 27 May 2008 (EDT)
 
== New biobox ==
 
I haven't played with it much yet, but so far it looks good. [[User:The Honorable|The Honorable]] 13:23, 31 May 2008 (EDT)
 
== [[:Image:Question book-new.gif]] ==
 
Where did you get [[:Image:Question book-new.gif]]? I'm assuming it's a free-use type of icon, but we need to know its source. (Fair-use claims probably won't work for navigation icons). [[User:The Honorable|The Honorable]] 19:56, 1 June 2008 (EDT)

Latest revision as of 23:16, 31 December 2012

Fishnets

I've been noticing the uploading of fishnet clothing pictures. Some pin up article have pictures of them in fishnets. Lorraine Burnett and Marge Mellor, come to mind.Apara 23:10, 9 December 2008 (EST)

Oh ok, well if you needed more, then you know where to look....Apara 23:27, 9 December 2008 (EST)

Movie Pages

For a few of the articles, I want to mention that the performer performed in the infamous pardory Who's Naylin' Paylin?. How do you make those pages? Cost 18:37, 10 December 2008 (EST)

Yes. I forgot to add that... Cost 18:42, 10 December 2008 (EST)

Booble Girls

A request has been made for a DanniGirls-type template for :Category:Booble Cover Girls, if you're interested (and don't have any other projects you're working on :) ) The Honorable 22:09, 15 December 2008 (EST)

Supporting Actresses and Sequels

What do we do with supporting actresses? Should we include them in the template or just the article? The two films that have this are Pirates and Pirates II: Stagnetti's Revenge.

The latter is also the sequel to the former. Should I put it type=episode in the template for them?

Cost 13:11, 25 December 2008 (EST)

Yeah, that's what I was planning on doing too. Cost 02:04, 29 December 2008 (EST)

Since you started the article

You probably have something to say, Talk:Madonna. Apara 03:07, 4 January 2009 (EST)

Micro Tits Ciccone

Sure, but she has not looked like the black and white photo for almost 25 years, the new photo is what she looks like. Madonna is NOT a C and barely ever was, in her early days she was virtually flat chested. I have sent pics to an editor to show you what I mean. Cone bras does not a bust make. My text is very relevant to boobpedia so I'm disappointed that is deleted. The article reads like a madonna fan cut and paste-this is a site about big boobs not over hyped ones. Also anyone who would use Lynsey in the same sentence madonna does not know their boobs. madonna needs to be compared to smaller women. Just an opinion. BreastKing 04:03, 4 January 2009 (EST)

Why was the picture deleted? That is WHAT SHE LOOKS LIKE. BreastKing 04:03, 4 January 2009 (EST)


Hi, it's breastking, I responded to you on the madonna page. i wrote most of Russ Meyer's wikipedia page btw. Madonna is the Anti-Super Vixen in every way shape and especially form! Best WishesBreastKing 07:20, 5 January 2009 (EST)

I responded again on the Mandonna page.Regarding my great article on Russ Meyer from wikipedia, you are extremely incorrect and lying as there are tons of notations and citations on my wikipedia article, THAT I PUT IN, that's why I was awarded my Barn Star for it as it was only two paragraphs when I got there.Perhaps you are not clear as to what my wikipedia name is? I also wrote most of the other Russ Meyer related pages correcting mistakes. 18ent_madonna.jpg

Happy New Year

Happy New Year to you too, Prophecy! I don't know if you've noticed, but we received some big news for Fuko on the new year-- She's going all-out AV. (Personally, I'd prefer just nude-posing, but I'll take AV without complaint if it comes to that ;) About other editors, yes, I see what you mean... I haven't followed what this is all about, but there was a certain editor at WP involved in the Russ Meyer page who was also changing Fuko's measurements at random, calling them "real" measurements, but based on pure guess-work... I hope this sort of bat-shittery isn't coming over here... One of WP's bad habits is carrying assumptions of good faith beyond the breaking point for disruptive users, while being unnecessarily harsh on good contributors. I trust BP's administrators will not fall into that trap though :) Looking forward to another year of good work with you. Cheers! Dekkappai 09:40, 6 January 2009 (EST)

I fear it's getting even worse than pixels. You notice the stars over her nipples on the video cover, I assume? There's a new wave of censorship sweeping Japan. I hope that doesn't mean AV DVD covers are going to start looking like that!  :-( Dekkappai 22:15, 6 January 2009 (EST)
Hi, Prophecy-- I have a question on this edit at Harumi Nemoto. Did you mean to re-locate the References section up from the bottom? If so, why? I thought we'd agreed References at bottom was to be a BP-standard. Dekkappai 22:49, 6 January 2009 (EST)
I notice you removed the Ja-wiki link in the lead with that edit also. I've been including that as a standard format in the Japanese model articles... Dekkappai 22:51, 6 January 2009 (EST)
Oops. It was Apara. Dekkappai 23:12, 6 January 2009 (EST)

A weighty issue

Hi, Prophecy. I've got an interesting problem here... I've just discovered that two of "my" models are the same person... She used the name Pine Miyazaki when she was a plump-ish big-bust model for Cinema Unit GAS, then she put on some weight and became a full BBW model under the name Yui Kyomoto... So her two infoboxes are the same in many points, but very different in other points-- waist and hip measurements particularly. What to do? I'm going to go ahead and put two separate infoboxes in the merged article, but that looks clunky, and makes the "Alias" field redundant... Any better suggestions? (Incidentally, I find she made quite a few videos under a third name-- whether that involves any significant body changes, I don't know yet.) Dekkappai 00:04, 13 January 2009 (EST)

I've merged the two into her first stage name-- Momoko Okada-- and, again, their are significant physical differences, though she is the same model. Apparently she's been gaining weight throughout her career, beginning in 2004. The gain is reflected in the cup-size also-- from G (Japanese) to J. (And a very pretty girl, thin or fat, in my book :-) Tell me if the article can be tidied up in any way-- looks awfully cluttered to me, with three infoboxes, but I don't know how else to get around this problem. Dekkappai 00:55, 13 January 2009 (EST)
Hi, Prophecy... Well, I'd agree with you normally-- such as with your Lindsay example-- but in this case, the actress is almost making a different "character" for each name/weight change. The data within each name seems to be consistent, but once she has upped her weight, she changes name, character, and the info that goes with it... Yet she is still the same person, so I don't think separate articles on each one would be the answer either... How about making separate sections within the article for each "identity", with each one having its own biobox? Dekkappai 16:40, 13 January 2009 (EST)
Ah... can't relocate the biobox to another section? That will be a problem... I haven't dug into this case enough to be 100% sure, but I suspect I will find that other data does change also... height might stay the same, but birthplace may change, as, obviously, the name does... I'll make this article a research project-- this model has caught my eye in the past, in all three of her incarnations as a pleasing subject for further research :-) -- and I will fill you in on the details once I have found the information... Maybe three separate, inter-linked articles will be the best way to go? Dekkappai 16:48, 13 January 2009 (EST)
I agree, it would be best to be in one article. But it's true, this is an unusual case. She's obviously the same person, but she's creating a different persona for each physical change... Like I say, I'll research her, and think more about it. Once I get more info on the subject I'll ask you, and maybe get the Admins involved too. Got to go now-- cheers! Dekkappai 16:54, 13 January 2009 (EST)

Comparison

Hi Prophecy-- I'm currently editing where I don't have the leisure of doing any image-viewing... Hence, the harmless category-adding and linking edits. I'll check tonight (my night-- morning, or whatever for you-- about six-seven hours from now). Dekkappai 16:31, 15 January 2009 (EST)

I had a look for myself. They seem to have the same eyebrows (which isn't much). But I can't really see any similarities at all. I tried looking for birth marks/moles, but couldn't find any. Apara 19:25, 15 January 2009 (EST)

Spam blacklist

I've taken it off the list. The Honorable 18:53, 27 January 2009 (EST)

Bad news

Hi, Prophecy. I see you've been busy at work here. I've been trying to keep up with the Japanese series too-- lots of great stuff going on over there these days :) Horrible news though: My home computer became basically useless last night. The system's all screwed up-- way out of date anyway... I now have no Internet, to say the least. No image capabilities, and probably not even able to do text editing... Also I see they've now disabled image downloading at the public computers I use too... So, I'm going to be, basically, unable to contribute here except for text, and that only very rarely... I'll do what I can to keep up with things until I can get the home computer situation fixed! I'll try to check in as often I can, and keep a record of what's going on with the Japanese videos/actresses. Dekkappai 15:42, 23 March 2009 (EDT)

Jeez, I didn't know you'd take the news so hard! I think I've got the problem fixed now, so work on the Japanese boob community should re-commence tonight or tomorrow. Glad to be back! Dekkappai 16:06, 26 March 2009 (EDT)
No problem-- just kidding above :) The magnificent Mitsumi Nanao caused the trouble-- I was trying to view a video of hers, and downloaded software that screwed up some of my system files. Anyway, now that I've got Internet again, I'll dig back in on Mitsumi! Regards. Dekkappai 22:11, 26 March 2009 (EDT)

Video Company/Studio/Label template?

Hi Prophecy. I noticed your nice manufacturer templates, but couldn't find a similar one for video (or film) studios & labels. I'd like to put a template, or at least the company logo on appropriate pages-- I've started quite a few on Japanese studios & labels. Should I just use the manufacturer template? Or would it be worthwhile to create a new film or video studio template? Dekkappai 18:14, 27 March 2009 (EDT)

OK-- I'll just do the logos for now, but more specific templates are something to think about for future projects. Although I suspect a lot of the general studio information is going to be difficult to find on Japanese subjects. Regards. Dekkappai 18:57, 27 March 2009 (EDT)

The template problem

Hi Prophecy. About the filmography template problem: More and more actress pages load sooo slowly due to the templated filmographies. At Mitsumi Nanao, I'm experimenting with a new format. Just a text filmography in the actress' article, and a link to the "Main filmography" article at the top. Do you think that works? Dekkappai 00:30, 1 April 2009 (EDT)

Good-- I guess I'll start doing that as a standard for filmographies over, maybe ten entries? And the template entries on the actress' main page will be just those in which she is the star. I don't want to get back to putting in those cumbersome tables again, so just a text entry with a link to a full, templated filmography should work. Regards. Dekkappai 10:51, 3 April 2009 (EDT)

removed photos

hi prophecy, the removals were requested by a copyright agent working on behalf of one or more of the photographers. --Hexvoodoo 13:14, 28 April 2009 (EDT)

that agent referred to her by one of her stage names. i assume he searches the internet for all images of her using that stage name. since i have no idea which photographers the agent represents, i don't know whether a photo from a different photographer would trigger another email. it's best to leave that page alone for now. --Hexvoodoo 13:38, 30 April 2009 (EDT)

Template Lists

Do you know how to make template list, like the DanniGirls one? Cost 10:25, 8 May 2009 (EDT) Biobox new

Hi, Prophecy. Cost pointed me to these list templates, which I haven't used yet. I couldn't think of an immediate use for them for my own work, but I have found a site which lists sales rankings (popularity) of busty/BBW models. Maybe this template would work for creating a list/template of their #1 model for each month... One thing though-- the list template itself doesn't seem to have much advantage over just listing the models manually. (Obviously, the template that goes on the model pages does offer an advantage.) But if there would be a way to add a thumbnail photo of the model in the straight lists, as at DanniGirls, I think that would be a significant advantage. Is it possible? Dekkappai 16:10, 8 May 2009 (EDT)
Right now, the DanniGirl templates only go from 2006-2008. I was planning on adding the 2009 models to it. Other list templates, like the playboy and penthouse one can also be updated. Cost 17:12, 8 May 2009 (EDT)
That worked. I'll do some of the other lists as well. I just saw the real penthouse list and it goes up to 1969... I have my work cut out for me. Anyways, by posting on the suggestions page, I'm hoping other volunteers and lurkers will get encouraged to take the initiative to contribute. Hopefully it works.... Cost 17:24, 8 May 2009 (EDT)
Hi again, Prophecy. Thanks for the explanation... I'm not sure I follow though. I don't think it was the images that caused the template/server problem. Remember our Uschi filmography test? That one had no images at all-- or maybe just one or two. I don't think it would be necessary at all to make sure that the biobox and the template photos are the same, so there's no need-- at least in my mind-- to make the biobox an all-purpose template. I would think just keeping the list template and adding a photo parameter would do... and wouldn't add much more stress to the server than the list template already has. Or am I not following? Anyway, I'll keep this in mind to try out for that "Top model of the month" list later on. Oh-- and Cost-- Sorry I misunderstood you. I thought you were asking if I knew how to do the template, meaning that I should give it a try-- I didn't realize you were asking for advice. But I've never used it anyway, so Prophecy is the right guy to ask :-) Cheers! Dekkappai 03:28, 9 May 2009 (EDT)

Biobox new

Hi Prophecy, I am trying to use the Biobox new template in another wiki. I am using all the related templates as well as the monobook and common.css configuration. But I'm facing a problem. In the performances section even if i leave these fields empty the keywords continue appearing (Topless, Bush, Full frontal, Pink, Masturbation, Dildo, Fisting, etc.) and the categories are also being added at the bottom. It's a brilliant template. I want to use it and properly attribute it to Boobpedia. Do you have any idea why is this happening? Thank you in advance--Yorgos 11:10, 8 May 2009 (EDT)
Hi Prophecy, thank you for your kindness and your offer to help me. What I've seen (after testing) is that the template is working fine in MediaWiki 1.13.3 (or earlier) but it won't work in 1.14. Can you think of a quick fix for that or maybe guide me towards a solution? Thank you again. Have a nice day! --Yorgos 03:37, 12 May 2009 (EDT)
I have further problems of compatibility between the template and Mediawiki's version :(
Look this, for example
Let me check the issue and I'll call you back. Many thanks! --Yorgos 06:30, 13 May 2009 (EDT)
Hi Prophecy, any news about the issue on Biobox new? Thanx. --Yorgos 04:57, 25 May 2009 (EDT)

Tattoo category?

Hey Prophecy, long time, no talk.

I wanted to ask your opinnion on a category of women here on Boobpedia with tattoos. You think this would be relevant or a waste of server space? Apara 02:58, 13 May 2009 (EDT)

Thanks for the feedback, I was thinking the same as you were. Apara 01:47, 15 May 2009 (EDT)

Fair use images

Hi. Under the terms of fair use images, they should only be used within articles. Therefore please could you remove any fair use images on your user page. Thanks. Boobs Online 18:16, 31 December 2012 (EST)