User talk:Wufei05

I think you should check with the admins. Before changing/redirecting a major category. So best to stop what you're doing. Until you get the go ahead. Apara 03:59, 11 August 2008 (EDT)

Yeah perhaps but this has been bugging me. If you can see this, changing the ethnicity of Black to African to encompass all people of African descent i.e. Carribean, America, etc.

If you can see this been changing the ethnicity of Black to African to encompass all people of African descent i.e. Carribean, America, etc.

Well, I'm just letting you know. Since the admins (Honorable or Hex) might not agree with the change or any other editors besides myself.

Does it bother you?

Does it bother you that Im making this change I know Im fairly new yet Im pretty good with computer code. If you can see this, changing the ethnicity of Black to African to encompass all people of African descent i.e. Carribean, America, especially considering the formality of other ethnicities and the fact that the term Black usually only means people of African-American descent. In addition changing the name of the two seperate ethnicities Latina & Black into one group Afro-Latina since people of Afro-Latina descent usually refer to themselves as such.

I have no problem. The only thing that bothers me is that, if changing Black to African, doesn't approve here. Then reverting all the changes will be an inconvience. Like I said before, wait until you get the approval of the change. I've seen editors, make new categories and get deleted because it wasn't in need. Then those changes had to be reverted. "Afro-Latina" would considered Mixed race. Which is why there's 2 ethnicities entries on the biobox. Apara 04:40, 11 August 2008 (EDT)

Can dig that but...

Then something like Eruasian shouldnt exist either plus techically speaking Afro-Latina doesnt neccessary mean a person of mixed race it also means a person of full blood African descent from a place like Cuba where they are part of Latino culture yet discintevly African in their aperance. To be honest also there really should be category for each combination of ethnicity so its easier to narrow down.

Well in this case. There's needs to be a lenghty dicussion about rather they're needed or not. If this were the case, I'm sure this would of been happened already. You may think you're helping, but you also might be hurting it, on what I stated before. Apara 05:09, 11 August 2008 (EDT)

Get that however...

I get what you're saying but a division of the groups is like telling Pedro Martinez he's Black but yet he only speaks Spanish but cleary isnt a Mestizo(most Latinos), so he's considered Afro-Latino. Divided the two is considered disrespect.

If I can butt in, Wufei05. First, welcome to Boobpedia, and I hope you enjoy contributing here. Second: I'll have to agree with Apara on the above, and go a little further. You say you're "fairly new" here. You're not. You just joined and you began changing a major category throughout the project... with your very first edit. Now, like Apara, I personally have no objection to the changes you made, it's the way you did it that raises concern. Basically, you came in as a guest, and started re-arranging the furniture. True, Wikis like this invite anyone to edit, and you are certainly welcome here. But in a project as small as this one, there are regulars, and there are administrators. When making a major change, even as a regular, but especially as a brand new member, it's best to get some idea that the change you are making is going to be accepted, and not cause a lot of reversion work. Third, and this, I think is the most important-- After Apara warned you about the exact thing that I've just pointed out, you basically told him to go to Hell and bulldozed through on your way. Even worse, after Apara reverted a few of your edits, you re-reverted. Apara is a regular and productive editor here, and you should treat his advice with some respect. Had Apara been a less calm editor, you could have easily started an edit war. Again, I am sure all us regulars here welcome your work, but when making a major project-wide change, especially on a potentially contentious article like race, discuss it with someone first. We, the regulars, do this all the time, and I think that it is because of this that we've avoided the sort of squabbling nonsense that makes Wikipedia so much less productive than it could be. Regards. Dekkappai 12:06, 11 August 2008 (EDT)

thanks for contacting me wufei05. i can appreciate your intent in making the changes to the categories, however as others have stated here, major category overhauls should have some concensus before being carried out. there are several problems with the changes:

1. you said in an email that "changing the ethnicity of Black to African to encompass all people of African descent". i would say that this was true before the change. at boobpedia the ethnicities are supposed to be broad categories that reflect general physical attributes. if anything, african is a more narrow definition.
2. in the email you also said, "especially considering the formality of other ethnicities and the fact that the term Black usually only means people of African-American descent". i don't see the formality of other ethnicities - caucasian, latina, and asian are popular terms used on the same level. and black doesn't mean african american. in fact, we originally had an african american category, and that was merged into the black category (as would have any other possible combinations - african european or afro latina).
3. in the current day definitions, african usually means someone who lives in africa, just like european means someone who lives in europe.
4. lastly, i hope you will like editing here, but please respect the opinions of more experienced editors.

if you need to discuss this further please feel free to do so. in the meantime, please do not start changing all references of black to african (as i see you have begun doing with Chaz), and please consider reverting your changes to the categories. --Hexvoodoo 15:57, 11 August 2008 (EDT)

I get what you're saying

I get what you're saying the only reason I kept going was cause I didnt want half of the models to be confusingly separated between the original category and the new one. Plus since Im African kinda felt weird asking someone else for permission to be called something other than 'Black' you know. Wouldnt have been so persistent if it was other category. My bad if anyone was upset about the sudden change. Go team USA!! :)