User talk:Dekkappai

Welcome back

I can't think of any recent major changes. You should have no problem continuing to contribute. :) The Honorable 17:47, 26 February 2008 (EST)

• If the sites provide some useful information, and aren't just come-ons for membership sites, they should be okay. The Honorable 20:09, 27 February 2008 (EST)
  • If it's related to big breasts, it is probably a suitable subject for an article. :) The Honorable 17:20, 1 March 2008 (EST)

I agree with you about movie posters and video covers in a filmography -- I can't imagine any video producers objecting to using covers for that. The Honorable 17:38, 2 March 2008 (EST)

Big-Bust genre directors articles!

Sounds fine to me. I'm kind of embarrassed that we don't have a Russ Meyer article already... :) The Honorable 16:27, 4 March 2008 (EST)

Good-- here comes Satoru Kobayashi! Dekkappai 16:27, 4 March 2008 (EST)

Images and stuff

I think that image size warning is a default MediaWiki thing. Unless you're uploading images that are several megs, you're probably okay.

Also, I notice that those Flickr images are Creative Commons-licensed, so they should be fine for use over here.

And let me know if you sneak a Boobpedia article into Wikipedia. :) The Honorable 19:38, 10 March 2008 (EDT)

Format of external links

Please see Help talk:Contents#Format of external links -Biguns 19:59, 19 March 2008 (EDT)

Hi, and thanks for the pointer, Biguns. Actually, I try to always use the {{cite}} template in my editing. I assume you're referring to my additions at Rachel Aldana? The Wikipedia article on this subject is probably going to be deleted. She's not in my normal area of editing interest, but I saw some good links at the Wiki article which we did not have, so I did a quick cut & paste job, trusting that regular editors there would patch it up. My BP-editing time is extremely limited, so I wanted to put as much time as I could into researching the Japanese/Asian area which is my principle interest. Hope you understand. Cheers! Dekkappai 20:13, 19 March 2008 (EDT)

You've opened 2 other discussions about this. :-) Let's just talk about it in the aforementioned link from now on. -Biguns 20:38, 19 March 2008 (EDT)

OK, Biguns. Dekkappai 20:40, 19 March 2008 (EDT)

Akira Takatsuki

hi dekk, i'll shoot Akira Takatsuki an email and see if he wants to get involved. thanks for the information and for your excellent work on BP. --Hexvoodoo 20:33, 27 March 2008 (EDT)

DVD covers

No problem. I'll try to control my urge to prune unused images. :) The Honorable 18:51, 1 April 2008 (EDT)

• I don't think there's any way to just rename image files with MediaWiki -- they have to be re-uploaded with the correct name. The Honorable 15:40, 2 April 2008 (EDT)

Greetings Dekkappai

Domo Arigato! Dekkappai... Is a good new your return, in this field (gravure and idols) still remains a lot by including... Greetings and hands to the work.--Kamui99 13:03, 13 April 2008 (EDT)

Yes, i don't dominate very well the English, i'm from Monterrey, Mexico, by that i use very terms no transliterated from the spanish, sorry.--Kamui99 21:21, 17 April 2008 (EDT)

Protected Amazon link

I assume Hexvoodoo protected it to keep anyone from adding their own affiliate code to the link. I think the protect tags only work if certain people use them -- and it's not an automatic admin thing, because they didn't work for me at first. The Honorable 20:05, 14 April 2008 (EDT)

Archiving articles

Unfortunately, archiving other sites' articles is probably a bad idea, for obvious copyright reasons. The Honorable 19:17, 21 April 2008 (EDT)

Hey, if it was up to me, I'd have no problem with it. :) The Honorable 18:57, 22 April 2008 (EDT)

Japanese "metric" cup sizes

Hi Dekkappai,

I wrote a bra size template, but I have no idea how to convert these "metric" cup sizes. I saw that you contributed most of the information on Japanese models here. Can you help me? Here's the template:

Template:Bra size

Please read the Usability section about the metric cups. Any help is appreciated!

Thanks and regards

Prophecy 21:08, 29 April 2008 (EDT)

Hi Dekappai,

thanks for your reply! Well, measurements like in Aki Tomosaki's Moodyz profile are just perfect! If only all the magazines worked this way (including American and European)... Sometimes they give the real bust measurements, and sometimes the underbust, together with waist and hip, which is useless for a correct bust-waist-hip or a bra size calculation.

I just saw that you sent me a second answer while I was writing. Did not read the link you gave me so far, because I was calculating if Aki's measurements were really correct. And it's perfect! This is the first Japanese big bust model of whom I ever got the correct bra size! Just look here, it's a normal shop site with advice for women how to calculate their bra size from bust and underbust measurements: Pampered Passions. I followed the instructions exactly with the 70 and 100 cms from her profile, converted them into inches without cutting the numbers - Her cup size is a perfect and real G like stated in the Moodyz profile! And her bra size is 32G.

As it's you work - would you mind if I added her bra size to your article using my template? You have given "H metric" there - which does not correspond to all the other metric cup sizes sometimes given, because normally they differ a lot from European cup sizes. But 32G is really sensible, I would have estimated her this way too. I'd add a reference and explain how her bra sizes was calculated. I know, this is Boobpedia, and everybody can change articles, but I have respect for the work of others and don't want to disturb any "rules" of your articles which I did not know.

Thanks again

Prophecy

Thanks. You did not add a reference, so I could not see where you got the H cup from. But anyway, a cup size is never static. I personally know women who wear everything from F to H, depending on the brand, the band size and the country the bra comes from...

BUT: I think we have found the proof that all this "metric" stuff is nothing other than normal cup sizes! I never understood the difference anyway. 34 is inches and 75 is metric cms, this is clear. But as for a cup size, they seem to be all the same, with regional and brand differences perhaps. I think this is why I found absolutely nothing on "normal" discussion boards where women wanted to buy a bra in Japan - the answer was always the same: Cup sizes are just like in other countries.

I also think that the difference between some Japanese cup sizes and the "real" cup size we might estimate exists simply because some photographers and producers 1. do not know anything about bra sizes (I know several who admitted this) 2. a few cups bigger always sells better. As if Fuko was less attractive if they wrote her real bra size... P is unreal and nonsense, but she does have at least a wonderful H, I or K cup.

Best regards

Prophecy 19:18, 30 April 2008 (EDT)

Oh... I just noticed that the "G" in her Moodyz profile does not mean her cup size. I thought so. My bad... But anyway, G is correct. :-)

Prophecy 19:34, 30 April 2008 (EDT)

That's exactly why I left the "metric" entry for Aki untouched, but added her "real" bra size to the measurements field. :-) Prophecy 16:57, 2 May 2008 (EDT)

AV idols

As you know more about the subject than I do, however you want to organize the categories is fine. The Honorable 23:50, 2 May 2008 (EDT)

Image question

I suggest doing it like the thumbnails on the front page -- in the description for the front covers, put a redirect to the higher quality image. The Honorable 20:32, 12 May 2008 (EDT)

Put #REDIRECT [[Image:HigherQualityImageName.jpg]] as the only text in the image's description, and clicking on the image in the article should take the reader to Image:HigherQualityImageName.jpg. The Honorable 22:11, 14 May 2008 (EDT)

Ethical dilemma

As long as there are plenty of busty women featured in the series, your plan sounds fine. :) The Honorable 20:05, 21 May 2008 (EDT)

• And if they're busty transsexuals...then what will you do? :) The Honorable 20:02, 22 May 2008 (EDT)

Filmography at Fuko's and other pages.

Hi Dekkapai,

congratulations for your thoroughness! I just stumbled across Fuko's site again and noticed the filmography. Please have a look at my Userpage and at a more recent table I created on {{Biobox new}}. I know that the Boobpedia CSS is lacking vertical column borders, but I managed to create some at the {{Biobox new}} page. Perhaps we should think of standardising the tables in your filmographies too? I'd be happy to be of assistance.

I also saw that you asked how to make the pictures clickable in your tables. On my Userpage every picture is clickable, as everywhere on Boobpedia. I do not quite understand why you added the |thumb parameter to your cover photos. Is there a certain plan behind it? I think the frames take more place as if the photos were just there, without frames. They would remain clickable anyway.

Regards

Prophecy 12:13, 31 May 2008 (EDT)

Well, concerning the tables - you are the only one who managed to get vertical lines in your tables so far :-))) It's a bug or something in the Boobpedia formatting CSS, but Hexvoodoo (who would have the rights to change it) isn't there most of the time. My style of having vertical borders/lines is quite complicated, and if you are writing your articles offline, the possibility of having layout problems when you upload your articles is quite high. But perhaps I'll write something like a how-to-guide some day. It would be quite easy if we were allowed to define classes. You would only have to take your tables, write class = "Boobpedia special fancy boobstable" in it, and the layout would change. But so far, we have to be satisfied with workarounds...

Ah, by the way: I extended the {{Bra size}} template so that it can handle "E metric" and stuff now. Perhaps you would also like to have a look at the simplified {{Bra}} template. You can just type {{bra|E metric}}, and the result is E metric. :-)

Concerning thumbs: I've searched for this too, because I'd like to have clickable thumbs on my user page that lead to the model's page, like you with your covers. As far as I have tested this, neither the redirect nor other versions work. They don't on Wikipedia either, there's an article about this. Perhaps I did it wrong; I'll let you know if I find a solution. The problem is: Boobpedia's software isn't up to date. Many tricks I'd like to program for templates, for example, don't work, as the Wikipedia features aren't implemented in Boobpedia yet. Again, let's wait for Hexvoodoo...

I also think we should have clearer categories so that people can find your lists easier. That is a project I'll start with template categories first.

Have a nice day and thanks for your feedback

Prophecy

fyi

hi dekk, i have started a discussion about the direction of boobpedia here. as you have lots of experience with editing on wikipedia, please have a read and give your input, thanks! --Hexvoodoo 17:24, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

Server will slow down for a few minutes.

Hi Dekkapai,

I have fixed some things in the {{Bra size}} template. When I upload the new version of the template, the server will slow down significantly for a few minutes, because the template is used on more than 1,000 pages.

As I saw that you are uploading a lot of covers at the moment, and as I know that your online time is limited, I thought I'd wait until you have finished your work. Please tell me when you are ready. The server will probably not respond then for a few minutes.

Thanks and regards

Prophecy 17:29, 10 June 2008 (EDT)

(Excellent list, by the way. I'll think of a fancy table format for your creations in the near future.)

Please look at the fyi message by Hexvoodoo (above)

Just in case you did not notice: Hexvoodoo sent you a message and invited you to join the discussion about a few topics I consider very important: My new category sub-structure and the use of templates tagging articles as containing statements without sources. Please add your comments on my talk page. I think it is essential for a site like Boobpedia to have at least all statements on boobs properly sourced. Boobpedia is cited more and more, and we have to be reliable in this field. Just my opinion... Curious what you think about it. Prophecy 19:08, 10 June 2008 (EDT)

Measurements

Yeah, I've got this on my list for future templates... I noticed that too, and everyone writes them in another way. I'm thinking of developing a template for that, but there is the difficulty that some models do not provide their real bust measurement for the first number, but their bra size with cup letter. This would be a bit difficult to handle, so I did not start the project yet. For my own projects I always use a style that is similar to {{Height}} and {{Weight}}:

• Original measurements first, calculated second and in brackets.
• cm and in with a leading space and always abbreviated.

So for Iori Kuroki, it would look like this:

130-90-110 cm (51-35-43 in)

If this is too long for one line, you can consider writing it

130-90-110 cm<br/>(51-35-43 in)

which would cause a line break and display both measurements cleanly in two lines.

Regards

Prophecy 15:42, 17 June 2008 (EDT)

Chronology

Hi Dekkapai,

thanks! I'm glad you like the idea and I'm looking forward to your contributions. Prophecy 16:59, 19 June 2008 (EDT)

Formatting

Hi Dekkappai,

on my computer the table and biobox are displayed normally, but maybe you have changed your article in the meantime. But this is a known issue. It's not the fault of any biobox (old and new would behave the same), but of the principle of positioning any tables at the right of a page in general (the biobox is nothing else than a table).

I had the same problem with my photographer pages: They are actually categories, with the models of this category listed under the article. If the article is short enough, the list of models (category list) overlaps with the biobox.

Workaround:

Type <br clear="all"/> before your filmography table. As the filmography table is formally after the biobox in the article code, it will be pulled down until the end of the biobox. This produces a bit of white space, but better than overlapping content...

See Gabór Both for example. It has the <br clear="all"/> at the end of the page, so that the category entrie are listed below the biobox if the page is displayed on Category:Gabór Both models.

In my opinion, a final solution (if there is one) could only be found by updating the main CSS file of Boobpedia or something like that. I've sent a mail to Hexvoodoo about that some time ago, but did not get a reply.

Regards

Prophecy 04:39, 24 June 2008 (EDT)

Sayuri

Haaaa! I knew you'd find this red link... I already wondered how it could be that you did not start an article about her yet. :-) Not only a picture, here's a few links I saved when I wanted to start a thread on the arabella bra on a forum, but now found a better place for this on Boobpedia:

• http://tokyotopless.com/model/Sayuri/10/
• http://tokyotopless.com/model/Sayuri/12/
• http://tokyotopless.com/model/Sayuri/13/

In these galleries she wears the Arabella bra, but I guess you know how to play with numbers. :-) I wanted to start an article on her some day, but feel free to do this. You have much better knowledge of the subject and are able to read Japanese. She's already listed in your Tokyo Topless list, but with a red link.

Thanks for your interest and regards

Prophecy 19:49, 29 June 2008 (EDT)

Minor formatting issues 2

Hi Dekkapai,

1. Sorry, I did not quite get you. Which "."s do you mean? Please show me a page with those "."s and desribe the phenomenon. 2. Filmography overwriting bioboxes. Please show me a page where this happens. I just saw a page with a filmography overwriting the biobox some time ago, filled in the br clear thing, and everything went well - at least on my computer.

Regards

Prophecy 10:10, 1 July 2008 (EDT)

Ah, now I know what you mean. First: The women in the Oppai listing are incredible! I'm looking forward to your articles.

Concerning vertical lines: No, nothing has been done. It can only be solved if the main Boobpedia CSS file is changed, but nothing happened.

Concerning the "."s: The wikitables should allow empty fields without "."s. There must have been something different lacking in your former versions so that the column or the lines were lost. The standard wikitable has lines, no matter what's in the cells. But it looks ugly...

Concerning the overall format of tables: You can work around this by defining your own CSS style for every single table. That's a lot of work and could be saved by establishing a class in the main CSS file. You can also work around this by defining the cell background colours, so the rest between the cells keeps a different colour. See {{Decades}}, the decade header on 1990s or just the parameter table in {{Biobox new}} for example. But the amount of work is really immense. And the code isn't very easy to read.

That's why I'm planning something like a filmography template for the future. One change to the template lets all filmographies on Boobpedia look the same. But that's for the future...

Sorry I couldn't give you an easy solution. Prophecy 12:38, 1 July 2008 (EDT)

I'd have asked you anyway, it's simpler than going through all your tables and find the fields that might be important. :-) Perhaps there will be a simple type parameter to specify whether the filmography shall become "Japanese" or "General". Prophecy 14:37, 1 July 2008 (EDT)

Bra

Sorry, I don't know this bra... :-) The bra thing was only an idea, because there are several manufacturers who specialise on big bust bras. I noticed that some busty models always wear the same bra types so I got interested... I thought it would fit on Boobpedia, but I already got into a discussion if the Eyes Wide Shut body is big bust specific or not. So far it has only been owrn by big bust models and became very popular, but Honorable thinks that a body has nothing specific to big busts. Although my point was that bodies look even more sexy if the yre stretched by big boobs, and if they are transparent, and if they are made of latex - like this one. Latex has become the big boobs material, but Honorable's point was that wet t-shirts are transparent too... Hm...

That's what I think too. I would include articles on all garments that do something with boobs (so a body has to be included), but I would not include garments like stockings (although I love stockings), shoes, panties and so on. You brought me to a good idea. I forgot about that argument. :-) Prophecy 16:18, 1 July 2008 (EDT)

Server down and citation templates

I'll answer on my page as two users have contributed. Prophecy 18:40, 2 July 2008 (EDT)

Shoe size

Yes, I noticed that on many American and british portfolios and sedcards too. The problem is: You never know what this size means or how it was measured. Sometimes it's centimetres, sometimes simple numbers (wich differ heavily from USA to UK to France to Germany to Poland and other countries). So I think providing such information in the biobox could not serve the purpose: To give the reader more information on the model, because he does not know what the sizes mean.

But I can be wrong. Writing something like a conversion like for bra sizes is almost impossible; it would have to take into account the nationality and the country where the model is living now (and we don't even have a field for this). Or we just leave it as free text - letting the user decide what to write in it and if he finds the information useful when he sees it in a biobox. Don't know...

Prophecy 19:10, 2 July 2008 (EDT)

Asian erotic cinema vs. Asian-born performer in U.S. erotic cinema

The solution seems simple:

We do not have a category neither for performers in asian films nor for performers in US films. So she does not have to be categorised at all - unless you'd like to introduce a category for this.

Then again it would be simple: You can add a category like "US film performer" and "Asian film performer" (names would have to be revised, just an idea). If she performs in both, you add both, if not - just one. Personally I think that we do not need such categories - a list would do better. Like yours. As she did not perform in Japanese AV films, she's not an AV idol and not to be listed in your list. If you'd like to start a list of Asians performing in US films (quite interesting perhaps), feel free to start it. I could not contribute, because I'm not that familiar with the subject, but you are.

As for the nationality: We know that she's Japanese, so this has to be entered in the biobox. If you find a source that mentions that she has acquired American nationality too, you can add the nationality2 field which I introduced exactly for this purpose. It's not shown if the biobox is the old one turned to a new one by adding "new", but as soon as it's the new biobox, nationality2 is accepted and processed.

I hope I could help you.

Regards

Prophecy 11:04, 4 July 2008 (EDT)

Birthdays

That's a good idea. I'll probably add some sort of "today's birthdays" link once there are categories for all the days. The Honorable 14:12, 6 July 2008 (EDT)

I've added "Today's birthdays" and "Today in boob history" links in the Interesting Links section on the front page. The Honorable 19:42, 6 July 2008 (EDT)

Satoru Kobayashi

By the way... I added the non-performer biobox to Satoru Kobayashi. Do you have a picture of him, by chance? Perhaps on some of the covers or in an article you read about him? I have searched for pics in the net, but the only Satoru Kobayashi I could find was a professional Go player... Prophecy 19:53, 6 July 2008 (EDT)

References

I'd like to invite you to take part in a discussion that User:Prophecy, User:The Honorable, and I have been having, about the layout of model articles. I've Consolidated everything here: Help_talk:How_should_the_articles_be_written

Drducker 04:49, 7 July 2008 (EDT)

Citation templates

Hi Dekkappai,

please do not stop using citation templates. I am sure the problem does not lie in these relatively simple templates, but in bigger high-use units containing other templates, like the new biobox. In addition to this, I believe that updating the Wiki software could already help.

Regards

Prophecy 19:36, 9 July 2008 (EDT)