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Hi, Prophecy-- what's the "official" policy on year & date linking? Should I be linking them all? [[User:Dekkappai|Dekkappai]] 15:32, 2 September 2008 (EDT) | Hi, Prophecy-- what's the "official" policy on year & date linking? Should I be linking them all? [[User:Dekkappai|Dekkappai]] 15:32, 2 September 2008 (EDT) | ||
:Great-- I'm in complete agreement about the dates. When I first came over here, from Wiki, the general practice seemed to be to link pretty much nothing except big-boob models. I think having the date articles-- even including big-boobed video releases-- is a great idea. (I assume we still do ''not'' link dates such as "accessdate" and "date" within reference citations though?...) Looking forward to seeing what you're cooking up with regards to "Feature Articles". Naturally, I want them to stress the quality and interest of the article, rather than the commercial benefit. [[User:Dekkappai|Dekkappai]] 15:50, 2 September 2008 (EDT) | :Great-- I'm in complete agreement about the dates. When I first came over here, from Wiki, the general practice seemed to be to link pretty much nothing except big-boob models. I think having the date articles-- even including big-boobed video releases-- is a great idea. (I assume we still do ''not'' link dates such as "accessdate" and "date" within reference citations though?...) Looking forward to seeing what you're cooking up with regards to "Feature Articles". Naturally, I want them to stress the quality and interest of the article, rather than the commercial benefit. [[User:Dekkappai|Dekkappai]] 15:50, 2 September 2008 (EDT) | ||
== References for the article of Lisa Miller == | |||
Hello Prophecy! | |||
The information about the forthcoming DVD, i got it by a phonecall with the scoreland company in january 2007. The informations about the magazines, i got it from usedmagazines.com and my collected magazines. The polaroids, i got them from an employee from Double-D-Productions in London. All the other informations are coming from the pay-sites scoreland.com, xlgirls.com and voluptuous.com. | |||
Best Regards | |||
Frank | |||
Revision as of 07:03, 3 September 2008
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Faster, Pussycat! Year! Year!
Hi, Prophecy-- Yes, I agree we definitely don't want any more columns in the filmography listings. Actually, as far as commercial links, my References serve that purpose, though Boobpedia isn't getting any benefit from this, I guess. Also, I doubt many BP-users would even be able to use those site-- Most Japanese retailers don't ship overseas. Thanks for catching the template goof-- I sometimes work too fast, at night, sleepy, and drinking, and am not as careful as I should be :-) I do go back and review my work constantly, so I'd have probably caught the mistakes eventually. About the Faster, Pussycat, Kill! Kill! year, though, I suspect 1966 is the correct date from the print source. I know IMdB and Wiki say 1965, but this would mean that Motorpsycho and Faster Pussycat were released the same month-- highly suspicious, as I know that Motorspsycho was sort of a rehearsal for Faster Pussycat... Some pretty reliable websites like THIS say 1966. I'll hold off on changing it back though until I'm home tonight and can check the print source. I say, if the print source says '66, that's what we're using for our source, and that's the year we should use... (Wouldn't it be nice if we are more accurate than Wiki on this? That's what they get for driving away editors who really have an interest in content instead of Wiki-politics ;-) Dekkappai 15:22, 5 August 2008 (EDT)
- Hey, wait-- I think I have access to contemporary Variety reviews and the AFI Catalogue-- I'll check them later and let them decide the year. Cheers! Dekkappai 15:26, 5 August 2008 (EDT)
- Strange... I think I had August 1966, right? But here's what I find:
- MOTOR PSYCHO
- Hollywood Reporter v.186 n.45 , 13 August 1965, p.3
- FASTER, PUSSYCAT! KILL! KILL!
- Hollywood Reporter v.189 n.20 , 08 February 1966
- Variety 09 February 1966
- MOTOR PSYCHO
- Which would indicate Motorpsycho was released in Aug '66, and Pussycat in Feb '66... And Faster Pussycat says released in '65, copyright '66... I'll try to dig up the original sources and check what they say. Dekkappai 15:39, 5 August 2008 (EDT)
- Ah HA! Faster Pussycat was given an L.A. showing on Aug 6, 1965, and then released nationally on Feb 1, 1966. (I assume, but have no evidence, that the L.A. showing was a pre-release viewing, and that more post-production was done before the '66 release... Dekkappai 15:51, 5 August 2008 (EDT)
- Strange... I think I had August 1966, right? But here's what I find:
Swiss
While I was looking at the biobox of a few people. I noticed "Swiss" is a red link. But when I look at the Swiss category page. Their names are on the category. Sort of odd don't you think? I remember you were redirecting nationalites awhile ago. Maybe that was it? Apara 20:23, 5 August 2008 (EDT)
Tango II (bra)
Sure-- I read it last night. I'll see if I can touch it up quickly. Cheers! Dekkappai 09:25, 6 August 2008 (EDT)
- OK, done-- feel free to alter anything if I've inadvertently changed the meaning. :-) Dekkappai 09:32, 6 August 2008 (EDT)
- By the way-- there were no real errors in what you wrote, I just made minor style adjustments, but the article as you wrote it was perfectly fine... "Distribution" does imply a distributor / company, I think... Maybe just "Models who wear... ?" Dekkappai 13:05, 6 August 2008 (EDT)
- I'll think it over today and let you know if I come up with any possibilities... Oh-- I double-checked the print source I'm using on the Meyer films, and they agreed with the AFI & original years. Looks like we're right and IMDb/Wiki is wrong :-) Dekkappai 13:33, 6 August 2008 (EDT)
- Oh, one more thing-- about the question of whether to include non-busty and/or male actors in the "starring" field of the film infobox: How about this: We only put the featured busty actresses in the infobox "Starring" field, but then we have a separate "Cast" listing within the film article which lists everyone-- actors & actresses, with their role names, if known. I'll try to get started on this with the Meyer films tonight. Dekkappai 14:18, 6 August 2008 (EDT)
- No ideas on the bra list yet... I came across this little bit that may help with the Japanese bras, if it doesn't tell what you already knew: http://www.gijo.org/main/faq#faq3, and http://www.gijo.org/main/faq#faq4 Dekkappai 00:00, 8 August 2008 (EDT)
- By the way-- there were no real errors in what you wrote, I just made minor style adjustments, but the article as you wrote it was perfectly fine... "Distribution" does imply a distributor / company, I think... Maybe just "Models who wear... ?" Dekkappai 13:05, 6 August 2008 (EDT)
Problems with Uschi's filmography
Hi, Prophecy. I was just trying to work on Uschi Digard's filmography, and came across a couple problems. I've got the best version I was able to put together saved at User:Dekkappai\Uschi.
- First and foremost-- is a filmography this large, all templated, an abuse of Templates, and will it cause server problems? And if it is, what do we do with large filmographies?
- If I include the film Up! in the filmography, it messes up anything that comes below it-- all the film templates display as text "template" all squished into one box. If I put the film at the top of the list though, it works OK...
- This filmography has several "protect" links to commercial affiliates. I put these all under the "notes", and they worked fine in Preview mode, but BP won't let me save it, saying I'm trying to alter or remove Protected text. The only way I was able to save it in my workspace was to totally remove the links... Dekkappai 02:40, 8 August 2008 (EDT)
- Right. "Huge boobs" with an interesting, multiple derivation: De-kappu (D-cup) + Oppai (titties) or dekai (enormous -- the "k" doubled for emphasis) + oppai. Got it off an old Mariko Morikawa video. And no, I don't have them, though I've become uncomfortably aware lately, that that's how the name could be interpreted... No, I'm interested in them, very much so, the Asian variety particularly, but I don't have them unless you mean "have" as in being happily married to someone with a couple :-) (Korean, not Japanese, but the Korean for "dekkappai" wouldn't serve me very well because of that country's unfortunate, but hopefully eventually to be rectified, lack of a big-bust industry.)
- The Big Server Crash of August 6. ME??? I'm innocent!!!. :-) No, really-- I wasn't doing anything at the time but checking recent changes. It happened at a time that I was on a computer where I'm unable to edit anything BP-ish. By the time it came to my lunch hour / BP-free editing time, BP had been down for a couple hours. No idea what could have done it...
- Thanks for fixing Up!-- I should have looked at the template. Where it goes in '76-- I don't know, since we don't have dates attached to the releases in the filmography yet. I or someone else will have to fix that up later.
- The Protect tags-- yes, we're a small, level-headed, and agreeable group of editors so far, I really see no reason for those tags, and, apparently, they're going to prevent any kind of Filmography work... Even if we did have an editor who went on a Crusade to remove all the affiliate links, that kind of thing is easily reverted. And it seems like a "protect" tag should be added only after something like that happens... I'll try working around them like you said-- though I don't see how that would make any more difference than simply building the filmography around them as I did... Dekkappai 09:42, 8 August 2008 (EDT)
- Well, what's odd is I did originally build my filmography around the protect tags, keeping the affiliate links and the tags intact, and it still wouldn't let me save it at the article... that's why I copied it to my user space. I had basically just reformatted the existing filmography and stuck the Protect tags and affiliate links into the Notes section, but BP wouldn't let me do that... Japanese lesson #2: By odd coincidence, Uschi's name has meaning in Japanese. I mean this as no reflection on the lovely lady herself, but "ushi" in Japanese means "cow"... which reminds me of a great Korean wild-goose chase I went on a while ago. My wife, ever sensitive to my interests :-) pointed out that there was a boob-centric Korean video made in the 1980s called "Cheosso Buin" ("Madame Milk Cow"). Unfortunately, research around the web turned up evidence that the title was just a lot of hype, and the lead actress was hardly BP-worthy :-( Dekkappai 12:14, 8 August 2008 (EDT)
- Ah... I built the template filmography through global "Find & Replace" commands, so maybe I inadvertently added or removed a space or something in the "Protect" tags. I'll try redoing it tonight. I don't mind having them in the "Notes" field so much if there are no actual notes to the film. But if they start pushing out real data, then they become overly intrusive. Dekkappai 16:06, 8 August 2008 (EDT)
- By the way, they get pretty clever in playing around with the titles related to my user name. Check out Nozomi Takeuchi's video titled "π" (Pi - pronounced "Pai" as in "Oppai"...:-) Dekkappai 16:31, 8 August 2008 (EDT)
Film template
I thought All Movie Guide was in there as one of the Databases, but I don't see it now... Shouldn't it be there? For now, I'll just add it as external link. Dekkappai 00:25, 9 August 2008 (EDT)
- Good-- One thing about AMG though is, they have a "Plot synopsis" main page, which is often useful. But sometimes they also have a "Review" which is useful in its own right, and sometimes written by a different critic than the one who wrote the synopsis. In the film template, Wiki only links to the Plot synopsis. We might want both? Or maybe we're loading the template up to much, and the Review should go in external links? Dekkappai 00:43, 9 August 2008 (EDT)
- Uschi: I copied and pasted the protected text into the notes field, and again it wouldn't let me save it. I'm sure nothing was changed between the "Protect" parameters this time... Dekkappai 02:41, 9 August 2008 (EDT)
- I was trying to save it at Uschi's article, the filmography. Dekkappai 11:11, 9 August 2008 (EDT)
- I see you managed to save it, but it looks like the afilliate/protect tags are completely gone? How'd you manage that, and is this what we should be doing? Seems to me that these "protect" tags are a big pain in the ass, and for absolutely no good reason-- None of us would intentionally remove/alter them, but they're making our editing difficult... Dekkappai 11:39, 9 August 2008 (EDT)
- Ouch! My condolences, Prophecy. I know how this kind of thing hurts. I was working on The Joy of Big Tits on a day that the server was down. I worked long and hard on it all day-- probably about 12 hours. Then when I was exhausted and ready to call it a night and go to bed, I thought I'd create an "image upload" file to make uploading easier. Get this: I OVER-WROTE the original article file!!! That was not a happy moment :-(
- By the way, Prophecy-- you mentioned thinking about starting an article on the film Eyes Wide Shut (I haven't seen the film yet) because it had a scene with a busty actress in it, but deciding that this alone didn't fulfill BP's inclusion category. How did you work around this problem? I ask because I recently saw a 1960s Japanese historical drama (set in ancient China) which has a couple scenes of a spectacularly-built Japanese actress. I haven't been able to find her name yet, and the film would not qualify as a big-bust film just based on these couple scenes with one supporting actress... What to do? Dekkappai 16:18, 9 August 2008 (EDT)
- She's not top-, but one of the recurring characters in the film. She's the wild & strong wife of the leader of a band of outlaws. You see her through the film, and then towards the end, while her husband is away, she gets horny and decides to take her frustrations out on one of the other outlaws. She rips off her own blouse and-- WOW-- :-) And the director (Koji Wakamatsu-- very respected in pink films) keeps coming back to that scene, even after the loving's over, and she, fortunately for us viewers, sees no reason to put her clothes back on :) Maybe "Big tits in such & such a film?" Anyway, until I can get some information on her, it's all speculation for now. Dekkappai 17:01, 9 August 2008 (EDT)
- Well, the Meyer filmographies weren't taken from IMDb, but from the AFI Catalog (Apara tells me that one of these is in error). I didn't know what format to put the cast in, so I just made that up. Maybe a table would be better? Doris Wishman? Yes, I think she deserves an article. She made several nudist films with our subjects in the early '60s, then the 2 big Chesty Morgan films. So, Wishman is definitely BP-material, though I don't feel inspired to start that article soon... eventually though... Dekkappai 00:17, 10 August 2008 (EDT)
- She's not top-, but one of the recurring characters in the film. She's the wild & strong wife of the leader of a band of outlaws. You see her through the film, and then towards the end, while her husband is away, she gets horny and decides to take her frustrations out on one of the other outlaws. She rips off her own blouse and-- WOW-- :-) And the director (Koji Wakamatsu-- very respected in pink films) keeps coming back to that scene, even after the loving's over, and she, fortunately for us viewers, sees no reason to put her clothes back on :) Maybe "Big tits in such & such a film?" Anyway, until I can get some information on her, it's all speculation for now. Dekkappai 17:01, 9 August 2008 (EDT)
- I see you managed to save it, but it looks like the afilliate/protect tags are completely gone? How'd you manage that, and is this what we should be doing? Seems to me that these "protect" tags are a big pain in the ass, and for absolutely no good reason-- None of us would intentionally remove/alter them, but they're making our editing difficult... Dekkappai 11:39, 9 August 2008 (EDT)
- I was trying to save it at Uschi's article, the filmography. Dekkappai 11:11, 9 August 2008 (EDT)
- Uschi: I copied and pasted the protected text into the notes field, and again it wouldn't let me save it. I'm sure nothing was changed between the "Protect" parameters this time... Dekkappai 02:41, 9 August 2008 (EDT)
"It's nearly impossible to have smaller areolas"
Do you want to explain that comment? If that is small, what does large look like? -Biguns 19:08, 9 August 2008 (EDT)
- Can you give me an example from this site of the minimum size which you consider large? That way I'll only categorize by that from now on. -Biguns 05:07, 10 August 2008 (EDT)
What do you think
Of this whole dilemma, that happened the over a day and half? (If you haven't noticed). Apara 11:00, 13 August 2008 (EDT)
- He/she was told many times about having it discussed. But didn't listen. I'm sure it wouldn't had been a problem. But too late now. Apara 11:43, 13 August 2008 (EDT)
- I actually told him about what he was doing. Before reverting anything. I told him or her to stop. Until it was discussed. Even Dekkappai and Hex told him the same. But he or she didn't listen. Then got banned. I didn't want to cause anything, but reverting his edits was appropriate on my take. I was really annoyed when my user paged got renamed. Apara 11:51, 13 August 2008 (EDT)
- Here's the talk page: http://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/User_talk:Wufei05 Apara 11:56, 13 August 2008 (EDT)
- You are right. Apara 12:04, 13 August 2008 (EDT)
- Here's the talk page: http://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/User_talk:Wufei05 Apara 11:56, 13 August 2008 (EDT)
- I actually told him about what he was doing. Before reverting anything. I told him or her to stop. Until it was discussed. Even Dekkappai and Hex told him the same. But he or she didn't listen. Then got banned. I didn't want to cause anything, but reverting his edits was appropriate on my take. I was really annoyed when my user paged got renamed. Apara 11:51, 13 August 2008 (EDT)
My 2-cents: I think Apara handled the situation completely appropriately. The new editor started making major prject-wide category changes with his/her very first edit. After several of these, Apara politely suggested waiting for a discussion. The new editor continued, and even reverted Apara when he reverted a few of these edits-- laying the grounds for an edit war. It was the new editor who created the entire mess, after several warnings from the three of us (hex included). So I think, no, this situation could not have been avoided, and the new editor borders on vandalism (strike that: IS a vandal, after I see what he did to Apara's page). I fully support a block. And by the way-- welcome back, Prophecy-- I was wondering where you went! Dekkappai 13:05, 13 August 2008 (EDT)
- Oh, I just discovered the whole discussion after I wrote my comments... Prophecy 13:15, 13 August 2008 (EDT)
Template concerns
Hi, Prophecy. I've tried to load the Uschi Digard page several times, and it won't work... (It did work just now, on probably the 6th or 7th try.) Russ Meyer took quite a while... Does this spell trouble in template-ville? I'm planning on templating the List of Cinema Unit GAS DVDs article, because almost all of those DVD covers also go on one or more actress page. I'll separate the list into year first, but still I'm concerned-- are these templates going to load? Dekkappai 18:56, 13 August 2008 (EDT)
- OK-- Uschi loaded just fine, and quickly right now... So who knows what's going on? Anyway, I'll forge ahead with the templating plans. Once I break the big GAS list into years, there will be less than a couple dozen videos in each sub-article, so it shouldn't be too bad. Dekkappai 09:28, 14 August 2008 (EDT)
Problem with Google template?
Hi, Prophecy. I've been noticing that the closing parenthesis on the Google template seems to have a line-break before it. Check out the sourcing at Image:Moa Anzai.jpg (my latest discovery/obsession ;) for an example. Dekkappai 15:30, 18 August 2008 (EDT)
- Thanks-- I noticed the server hiccup, and I figured the fix was going on :-) Regards. Dekkappai 15:50, 18 August 2008 (EDT)
- One more minor template issue: If you check out Moa_Anzai#Life_and_career, you'll see the inline templates of video titles (Big Tits Moa 111K and Big Tit All Stars, Vol. 1) are not italicized, which they should. I'm stepping out now, so won't be editing and interfering should you decide to update the code. Cheers! Dekkappai 17:32, 18 August 2008 (EDT)
- OK-- strange that the title is italicized alright in the filmography, but can't be italicized in an inline reference... anyway, I think it's fairly important to italicize film titles, so I've devised a work-around. Unfortunately that work-around means we either have to have all the non-title info (year & director) in italics also, or put that non-title info outside the template... I took the latter course. Dekkappai 20:32, 18 August 2008 (EDT)
- Thanks! Dekkappai 00:02, 19 August 2008 (EDT)
- OK-- strange that the title is italicized alright in the filmography, but can't be italicized in an inline reference... anyway, I think it's fairly important to italicize film titles, so I've devised a work-around. Unfortunately that work-around means we either have to have all the non-title info (year & director) in italics also, or put that non-title info outside the template... I took the latter course. Dekkappai 20:32, 18 August 2008 (EDT)
- One more minor template issue: If you check out Moa_Anzai#Life_and_career, you'll see the inline templates of video titles (Big Tits Moa 111K and Big Tit All Stars, Vol. 1) are not italicized, which they should. I'm stepping out now, so won't be editing and interfering should you decide to update the code. Cheers! Dekkappai 17:32, 18 August 2008 (EDT)
Hi Prophecy. OK, I have to admit to not paying much attention to many of the parameters in the "Biobox new" template. One that's confused me is "Frontal" I take this to mean fully nude, "Frontal"? If so, it is confusing to me why a certain editor has removed "Yes" from frontal at Chiharu Mizushima... Mizushima has done full nude (with nothing censored-- i.e., illegal in Japan) hardcore, etc. pretty much anything and everything I could think of that would be called "Frontal"-- and much of it is easily found on the Web. So wouldn't that be a "yes"? Dekkappai 09:44, 19 August 2008 (EDT)
- No trouble... Just an opportunity to display the flower of Mizushima's womanhood. And a lovely sight it is to behold ;) Much more aesthetically pleasing to me than all these male appendages I'm coming across in other articles :-(... Cheers! Dekkappai 11:19, 19 August 2008 (EDT)
Video articles
You know, while we were developing these video templates (which I'm really just now starting to implement), you mentioned thinking the front-cover (smaller) image should be at least 240px for a potential future article on the video. I commented that there probably wouldn't be such articles, and that the images were just going to be used in filmographies... Well, the more I hunt around and research, the more I think you were right. I probably still have a bit of a Wikipedia mentality left over, "Any film less 'notable' than Citizen Kane is subject to deletion review, and even Kane had better cover his ass with plenty of 'reliable' sourcing!"... I'm finding good, lengthy, professional reviews (in Japanese) of each individual video, and well-written fan-based reviews in English. It certainly wouldn't be beyond the scope of BP to have such articles... I'll try to find images at least 240px when I can... screen caps could be used to illustrate particular scenes, reviewer ratings could be discussed, etc... BP's still a young and small project, so we're still covering the basics, but it's a thought for the future... and further justification of these templates. Just some thoughts... Cheers! Dekkappai 19:55, 19 August 2008 (EDT)
- Right-- I kind of circle around in my editing... I'm back with the Japanese actresses now, but I'll get back to Gaston Lachaise soon-- lots more sourcing to go through with him... I'm not into comics, but I've got in mind an article on the cartoonist Gilbert Hernandez also-- Know him? This and this may give you an idea why his work has caught my eye as a potential BP subject. GREAT work on the Katja Ehrhardt article by the way! OK-- back to work! Regards. Dekkappai 21:00, 19 August 2008 (EDT)
- Did I just cause a small crash? I uploaded 32 video templates. Things slowed down in the middle of the uploading, and I waited a while. Everything was fine until I uploaded the List of Cinema Unit GAS DVDs: 2007 article. It registered in the "recent changes," but I couldn't get it to display. I was at another computer about half and hour later, and couldn't get Boobpedia to load at all. I'm back home and everything seems fine now-- I can see the list article... Think things are alright now? Dekkappai 19:55, 20 August 2008 (EDT)
- OK, I'll proceed with caution... Last night I started List of Cinema Unit GAS DVDs: 2006, which was half-complete (30 templates were on the article, but only half had content), and it seemed to go fine... Although Uschi's filmography templates are almost all empty as well... You're right, the more prolific actress articles are the ones that are going to give us more trouble here... Uschi seems to be working fine right now-- I'll take out that template list & save it to my workspace. Hopefully we have no crash :-) Dekkappai 10:38, 21 August 2008 (EDT)
- Strange... I got into Uschi's article fine and removed the templates, but now I can't open my own Uschi filmography-- at my user space... I'll save it on disk. Dekkappai 11:13, 21 August 2008 (EDT)
- Did I just cause a small crash? I uploaded 32 video templates. Things slowed down in the middle of the uploading, and I waited a while. Everything was fine until I uploaded the List of Cinema Unit GAS DVDs: 2007 article. It registered in the "recent changes," but I couldn't get it to display. I was at another computer about half and hour later, and couldn't get Boobpedia to load at all. I'm back home and everything seems fine now-- I can see the list article... Think things are alright now? Dekkappai 19:55, 20 August 2008 (EDT)
More minor template issues
Hi again Prophecy... While working with these templates, I'll probably come across more minor issues. One is the Series / Notes fields (I think I mentioned this before). I'm finding that I'm pasting Series info twice, once in both fields, to get it to show in the "Notes" field-- which I think is useful. If you're fine with this redundancy, it doesn't bother me much either. The second issue is a little more significant. If you look at Mammary_intercourse#In_Japan, you'll see I've made reference to a video, and the template puts it as "Big-Titted Tit-Fucking Perverted Woman: Kira Namikaze (Jiro Kanoko, 2007)", which is fine, except that it doesn't give a source/reference. The citation will appear in the "References" section, of course, but we won't be able to tell the exact point in the text that it refers to, because the "Release date" is not listed inline. Actually, I think, for videos, that displaying release date inline would be useful and appropriate, and that would solve the citation problem also. I tried entering "{{film|GAS-062|released=1|director=1}}" instead of "{{film|GAS-062|year=1|director=1}}", but this didn't work. Would adding this variation to the inline citation be too much trouble at this point? The alternative would be to put the citation after the inline template in the article, but that defeats at least some of the purpose of the template, and would also result in a mysterious double-citation (one from the actual template, which does not indicate where it came from within the text)... Also, the issue of inline citations of actual films will come up eventually... Dekkappai 13:43, 21 August 2008 (EDT)
- (Sorry for posting that in the wrong section) anyway-- is this a solution? In Template:GAS-062, I've moved the citations to the "name" field. This displays fine, so far, in filmographies and inline citation. In an article on the video itself, it's going to display in the title portion of the infobox, above the video cover image, I assume-- which is fine, I would think. The only possible issue with this I can see is how that field is used-- The template is not going to be looking for a film article with that exact name, is it? I assume the template looks for the exact text after the "article" field... When and if we do start articles on individual Japanese videos, this will be a minor issue since I prefer identifying them by the "ID#" rather than the Original Research-ish English title I've made up, or copied from the poor-English on the video cover, but again, not a big issue... Dekkappai 14:17, 21 August 2008 (EDT)
- (Please let me know as quickly as you can if putting the reference in the "Name" field is an acceptable solution, since I'm preparing templates right now. Cheers!) Dekkappai 14:29, 21 August 2008 (EDT)
- Series / Notes solution: Perfect-- just the solution I had in mind, thanks! :) The inline citation problem: No, those mysterious numbered citations in the reflist section corresponding to no number in the text (which results from using the template inline) does seem to me to be a pretty important problem. It's the kind of thing that can be very frustrating for a reader, and will make our articles look bad... So, if there really is no way to work around this, I think we'll just have to not use the templates inline... I guess we can't use them everywhere... Actually, the template sourcing is for the data contained within the template, which is not normally part of an inline mention of the film, so there really is no need to use a source from the template in an inline reference. The only advantage to having the template used inline is if the year, title or director of the film/video is changed within the template. (In the case of the videos, where the data is difficult to find, and can potentially be corrected later, this is a valid use for the template, but I think the citation problem is a bigger issue...) I guess we'll have to just use the templates for Infoboxes and Filmographies. Anyway, thanks for all the work, and I'll continue on! Dekkappai 16:32, 21 August 2008 (EDT)
- (Please let me know as quickly as you can if putting the reference in the "Name" field is an acceptable solution, since I'm preparing templates right now. Cheers!) Dekkappai 14:29, 21 August 2008 (EDT)
Thanks again
Hi, Prophecy. I finally finished templating the Cinema Unit GAS DVD list, and now I'm plugging them into the actress articles. I have to thank you again-- this makes the process of adding new videos to filmographies amazingly easy... Only one thing I've come across while doing this is that when an actress has a non-templated film on her filmography, the process of creating a "temporary" inline template is actually much more time-consuming than creating an actual template... Maybe I'll just keep these in tables (creating a temporary, awkward double-filmography) when I don't have time to create a full template... Anyway, Cheers! Dekkappai 12:15, 22 August 2008 (EDT)
Non-template filmographies?
Hi, Prophecy. Again, the templates are working out great! I have a question though: My old table-based filmographies look quite different and obsolete now, compared to the new ones. I think most of the current ones-- filmographies of fairly major (within the genre) actresses & labels-- can be templated eventually. However, there are some situations that will never require templates, I don't think. The case that brings this to mind is an article/filmography I'm planning on a candid-camera sort of series, where the cameraman basically films busty and BBW women walking down the streets of Japan. I find the subject quite worthy of an article, but there would be no need to template the individual videos, since we're not going to have articles on any of the individual women, or, most likely, any of the individual videos. Doing the regular inline "temporary" template would probably be inappropriate in a case like this also... Could you give me table-based code which would make a table that looked the same as the new template filmographies? Or is there another way around this? Dekkappai 22:33, 25 August 2008 (EDT)
- Thanks Prophecy. Right, I could build this sort of filmography through the Film template-- but doing this with Uschi has caused problems, so I thought that when the actual templates are unnecessary, just doing it as a table would be better-- as long as we can make table that look identical to the new template filmographies. I'll experiment both ways though to see what works best. Regards. Dekkappai 23:49, 25 August 2008 (EDT)
- ...That makes sense... but the Uschi filmography only had two or three films with actual film template files... the rest were just calls to the "Film" template... anyway, I'll experiment and see how things work both ways. Dekkappai 00:14, 26 August 2008 (EDT)
DVD / VHS release?
Hi Prophecy... on the videos, occasionally I've come across conflicting release dates, and now I see what the issue is: They're released in 2 formats, on different dates. Do we want to address DVD / VHS release date? Or just go with the earliest release, and ignore the format? In my old table-filmographies, I used to include both releases, but it's probably no really necessary. Regards. Dekkappai 11:26, 31 August 2008 (EDT)
- Ah, that would work. But would it foul anything up if I put the format after the date? Like: "September 28, 2007 (DVD) <break> December 28, 2007 (VHS)"? Dekkappai 11:34, 31 August 2008 (EDT)
- OK-- working out fine. Thanks! Dekkappai 12:00, 31 August 2008 (EDT)
Linking Years / Dates
Hi, Prophecy-- what's the "official" policy on year & date linking? Should I be linking them all? Dekkappai 15:32, 2 September 2008 (EDT)
- Great-- I'm in complete agreement about the dates. When I first came over here, from Wiki, the general practice seemed to be to link pretty much nothing except big-boob models. I think having the date articles-- even including big-boobed video releases-- is a great idea. (I assume we still do not link dates such as "accessdate" and "date" within reference citations though?...) Looking forward to seeing what you're cooking up with regards to "Feature Articles". Naturally, I want them to stress the quality and interest of the article, rather than the commercial benefit. Dekkappai 15:50, 2 September 2008 (EDT)
References for the article of Lisa Miller
Hello Prophecy!
The information about the forthcoming DVD, i got it by a phonecall with the scoreland company in january 2007. The informations about the magazines, i got it from usedmagazines.com and my collected magazines. The polaroids, i got them from an employee from Double-D-Productions in London. All the other informations are coming from the pay-sites scoreland.com, xlgirls.com and voluptuous.com.
Best Regards
Frank