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== Question ==
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...to a native speaker: Let's assume a model has worn man different bras. And let's assume every bra of hers has an article on Boobpedia. How would you call a list of her bras in her article? Braography?
== Amazon link ==


Ah, no, that doesn't work. There may be bodies and other clothing included. I think there isn't a nice neologism we could find for that?
Hey, I didn't know we had an Amazon affiliate thing. :) For search URLs at Amazon.co.jp, I think adding <tt>&tag=boobpedia-22</tt> to the end of the URL should work. I'm not sure how it works with links to product pages at Amazon Japan, though. [[User:The Honorable|The Honorable]] 20:47, 24 September 2008 (EDT)


[[User:Prophecy|Prophecy]] 23:20, 4 August 2008 (EDT
== Minka ==


: You mean her birth year? Yes, it's linked automatically by the biobox. [[User:Prophecy|Prophecy]] 23:40, 4 August 2008 (EDT)
I think the way your suggestion for clarifying that Minka is from South Korea but works in the U.S. is fine. [[User:The Honorable|The Honorable]] 18:39, 27 September 2008 (EDT)


:: ofseries is actually meant only for episodes of TV serials for example. But it can also be used for Boku no Oppai.  It appears in GOLU-09, too, after the type at the top of the infobox parameters: Video (Boku no Oppai). It is not necessary to have it in a filmography line though I think. It should be sufficient if you have all the title data, company and ID. [[User:Prophecy|Prophecy]] 00:14, 5 August 2008 (EDT)
== ID links ==
::: Hm... Perhaps not a bad idea. By the way, the notes column will be filled with those affiliate links and view on demand and stuff... On pages like [[Lucy Love]], for example. I'll think about it. [[User:Prophecy|Prophecy]] 04:22, 5 August 2008 (EDT)
::::* You may be right about the Notes field. I do not like the affiliate links either. I do not like the "Big tits pictures / movies of" section. It's irritating and misleading. When I was a simple Boobpedia visitor, I never clicked on those links, because I learned after the first trial that it was only affiliate links '''NOT''' leading to the promised big tits pictures / movies of the model I was reading the article of. So this section was even contraproductive. Besides, the spaces around the / are wrong and bad typography. I removed the big tits pictures / movies section in every single of my articles. I have a list of websites the model worked with, this is honest, because it says: This is the website the model appears on. I put the affiliate links in there, because I do understand that Boobpedia needs this. I guess there aren't many donors. Boobpedia has to live somehow.
::::* But back to our Notes column: Installing an extra column for affiliate links is more than I want to grant. Besides, the filmography table cannot take more columns. Even now you said that some columns are squeezed if you view them with a low screen resolution. So I thought the best way to make it possible to include them when needed was to put them into the notes field. Remember: You are not obliged to put any affiliate links there. But I saw it in many of the "standard" pornstars pages like [[Lucy Love]] that VOD links have been added after a quite a few films by the admins. And this is ok. If a visitor wants to view scenes of the film, he can; and why not have the site pay Boobpedia for leading visitors to their VOD site. And: Especially the Lucy Love filmography is edited constantly, some editors thoroughly collect the films she participated in. If we want our clean and fancy filmography style to be used there, we have to offer the possibility to add the affiliate links. Besides, on [[Anna Semenovich#Cinema]], I used the column for adding the role she was playing in the film (because I did not want an extra column for this either) and the IMDb link. I think we should just consider it as a multipurpose field where users can put things they'd like to appear in the filmography, but which don't have a field elsewhere.
::::*Different thing: Apparently yuo copied the data from {{tl|Beneath the Valley of the Ultravixens}} to {{tl|Up!}} without changing all parameters. :-) Now both films have partly the same data.
::::* Please archive this talk page too, except this last section. It has become huge just in a few days, but I think most work is done. It's difficult to load, therefore I removed the example filmography of Russ Meyer from this page too. [[User:Prophecy|Prophecy]] 14:05, 5 August 2008 (EDT)
::::: Ok, look Faster Pussycat up in the print source, and compare with other sources if possible. If you change it back to 1966, please be sure to change the year in [[August 6]], too! [[August 6]] appears on the Boobpedia Main page tomorrow, in the right box, as "Today in boob history" (appears if a page for the day exists). So it would be nice if we were correct. :-) [[User:Prophecy|Prophecy]] 15:28, 5 August 2008 (EDT)


== Need help ==
I see absolutely no problem. GAS-45 or GAS 45 is a unique identifier, and a person who searches would be happy to be led to the article - at least I think so. No one would search for a gas station here. :-) [[User:Prophecy|Prophecy]] 16:02, 28 September 2008 (EDT)


Hi Dekkappai,
== "Unreferenced" tag ==
 
could you have a look at [[Tango II (bra)]]? It's my first bra article which is not only a stub - but I'm not quite satisfied with my grammatical and rhetoric style, above all in the "Reception" section. Perhaps you as a native speaker may go through the article and make suggestions if the wording or style appears strange to you. Feel free to edit.
 
Thanks in advance


[[User:Prophecy|Prophecy]] 09:21, 6 August 2008 (EDT)
Please be careful about calling edits "vandalism";
[http://www.boobpedia.com/butler/index.php?title=Gail_McKenna&curid=7545&diff=80232&adding an "unreferenced" tag] to an article is usually well intentioned, and isn't the same as actually defacing an article. [[User:The Honorable|The Honorable]] 16:34, 28 September 2008 (EDT)


: Ah, and one more question: "Reception" means how people like it, but I'm also looking for a section title like "circulation", "speading", "diffusion" containing facts about '''who''' wears a bra. Some bras are very widespread among Score models, but do not appear in other pictorials at all. Some are only worn by European models, and some are really spread all over the world. Any suggestions? [[User:Prophecy|Prophecy]] 09:34, 6 August 2008 (EDT)
== Paintings ==


:: Thanks for now, I'll go through your changes later, have to leave for a while. Looking forward to your suggestion concerning the "circulation" of a bra. :-) [[User:Prophecy|Prophecy]] 09:36, 6 August 2008 (EDT)
I prepared the category long ago when you came up with the sculptures, because I knew that there would be paintings and painters some day... The way I found Juliette Fretté is quite bizarre: I wanted to have another Juliette after writing the [[Juliette (bra)]] article, just to have a disambigation page. I then discovered that we already had her mentioned in the Playboy Playmates template for 2008, and then I saw that she's really quite unique: She wrote her thesis on feminist theories about Playmates and became one herself! :-)


::: Ah! '''Distribution'''? Or can this be confused with distributors selling it in different countries? [[User:Prophecy|Prophecy]] 10:26, 6 August 2008 (EDT)
As for the opera: Good idea, but: The opera itself does not specify nude scenes, so the article would have to be about the singer/actress herself. But very nice idea. I like it if we do not only have those ol' porn stars. I'm weary of seeing just another picture of those artificial people. Other genres freshen Boobpedia up I think. But that's only my opinion...


:::: Thanks! :-) About models who wear: No, that doesn't work. I already have a list like this in the infobox. I meant it more in a general way. It seems for example that Score has bought some bras and garments for their models which they give to them at each and every occasion (I hope they wash them in the meantime), but no one else has been seen wearing them. Strange... The wearers can be classified not only by model, but also by geographic boundaries (ok, certainly a pure British bra is worn mostly in Britain), and, as I said, by websites. I thought distribution was possible, analog to Gauss distribution and stuff... :-( [[User:Prophecy|Prophecy]] 13:25, 6 August 2008 (EDT)
[[User:Prophecy|Prophecy]] 12:40, 29 September 2008 (EDT)


:::: This is a fine idea. I think we both forgot that there are still articles wrapped around our infoboxes and that the infoboxes do not need to contain every available data on the film... [[User:Prophecy|Prophecy]] 14:36, 6 August 2008 (EDT)
== Re: Another ethical dilemma ==
You don't have to credit the Wikipedia article if you're not using it directly. A link to the Wikipedia article in the references or external links section might be nice, if the article is worth linking to. [[User:The Honorable|The Honorable]] 18:50, 1 October 2008 (EDT)


== Clearall ==
== Anna Semenovich ==
I see. I get this sometimes, when the headlines go through the biobox for no reason. Alright I'll revert it. [[User:Apara|Apara]] 03:09, 8 August 2008 (EDT)
 
: Ah, by the way - {{tl|clearleft}} did not work because it simply did not exist.
: Did.
: I just created it. You can use it now, works the same as <code><nowiki><br clear="left"/></nowiki></code>, but is easier to use. [[User:Prophecy|Prophecy]] 10:56, 8 August 2008 (EDT)
 
== Uschi ==


Hi Dekkappai,
Hi Dekkappai,


ah - first one question that tortures me since the day we correspond:
thanks, I'll look at it later. [[User:Prophecy|Prophecy]] 18:13, 4 October 2008 (EDT)
* Looking at many of the film titles in your Japanese filmographies,
: Uh, there's much to think about, and different approaches to writing articles. Some of them new, but useful and better than mine, others I'll have to think about further. I'll ask you a few questions on your reasons later. [[User:Prophecy|Prophecy]] 18:50, 4 October 2008 (EDT)
* recognising the constant appearance of some syllables in most big breast related Japanese film titles
:: I'll post your suggestions and my thoughts on the [[Talk:Anna Semenovich|discussion page of the article]] so everyone can participate. I'll start with a few and add the rest sometimes later. [[User:Prophecy|Prophecy]] 05:26, 5 October 2008 (EDT)
* and finally applying some general linguistic contruction rules
::: Please do not delete your version in your workspace. As you might see, I'm proceeding slowly, very slowly through your suggestions and my article... The origin of her name has taken an interesting turn, by the way. Thank you for suggesting more sourcing for this section; I found that I was completely wrong about the -vich behind her name. :-) [[User:Prophecy|Prophecy]] 17:52, 13 October 2008 (EDT)


- dare I try a translation of your name? He who loves big boobs? He who'd have big boobs if he was a woman? He who tells you "Don't bother me with boring  crap, I want to look at my tits"?
== Virginia Bell ==
I was browsing around and I found clips of an 8mm with Virginia Bell from some forum. Since you did some work on her article/filmography, thought I'd ask you. Interested? [[User:Apara|Apara]] 09:18, 7 October 2008 (EDT)
:Yeah I figured them out. I didn't have much trouble. Though I did forget the link to them. [[User:Apara|Apara]] 18:44, 7 October 2008 (EDT)
::Thanks Dekkappai. I'll be sure to save those in my favorites, so I won't forget. [[User:Apara|Apara]] 01:36, 8 October 2008 (EDT)


Er - regards
== Server ==


[[User:Prophecy|Prophecy]] 07:00, 8 August 2008 (EDT)
Yes, I noticed it too... Don't know if this is a busy time in the US, here it's late in the evening... I did not save anything spectacular, so I don't know where it comes from... [[User:Prophecy|Prophecy]] 16:53, 7 October 2008 (EDT)


Yes, and your questions and problems:
== Navigation templates ==
;1. Too many templates in Uschi's page?
Well, that's what we are testing here. It's only you who includes such big and complete filmographies in articles, so testing your articles is the best way to test the funtionality of the film template in general. So far it seems to work better than I thought. Just calling [[User:Dekkappai\Uschi]] today went incredibly quick and caused no problems at all. But we do not have enough test results so far. So please proceed like we agreed earlier: As soon as you notice severe server performance loss, stop adding film templates. Add only one filmography at once and look how it works; do not add filmographies to several articles at the same time. If something happens, we are able to better locate the article which caused the trouble. And now the crucial question: What did you do two days ago when the server crashed again? I did nothing; I had Boopedia open but did not call a page or edit for several hours. When I returned to my computer, I could not call any page anymore. I looked into the recent changes, but there was nothing particular. So perhaps someone has '''tried''' to save a big template or article, caused the crash, but the crash happened before the article could be logged. I did not see you working on Uschi before the crash, so I suppose you didn't do anything that could have caused the crash either?


'''First experiences with long filmographies:''' Although Uschi's page was easy to call, '''saving''' it resulted in a zero-sized reply again. Not severe, because changes are mostly saved in this case, but an indicator that the server starts to have problems. If it's only when you save the page, it's ok, because just browsing through tha page caused not problems at all. But I really do not know what will happen with some of your ultra-long Japanese film lists. Perhaps you'll have to break them into subpages. Not that they'd cause any trouble for readers browsing through them - but it would become hard for you to edit them if you get error messages all the time.
Unfortunately, we haven't, in this case. I noticed that they have an allround metatemplate on Wikipedia which you can fill with all kind of content so if would even work if you'd like to create a navigation template for all the moles on [[Dominno]]'s body - but when I saw the template, I realised it was such an immense work to implement that here that I resigned for the moment... [[User:Prophecy|Prophecy]] 16:57, 14 October 2008 (EDT)


But after all, we are not even able to say if it really was the number of templates on Uschi's page that caused the slight error, or just the "general situation" and the server just wanting to hiccup a little bit. We have to test more, but carefully.
== Books ==


;2. Including Up! in the filmography messes up everything that follows
Of course there will be a publication template. Some day... :-) The disadvantage I see in the magazine appearances table format is only one single: Our beloved server. We saw that the filmography entries cause it to break down, so the magazine appearances table will do the same... :-( [[User:Prophecy|Prophecy]] 16:20, 17 October 2008 (EDT)
Sure. The template itself was messed up. When I called it, the preview was not visible, only a rudimentary #if: statement. I deleted the two country templates that were in the alternate title field, and everything worked fine. I think they were in there from former times, when the film templates did not exist yet. I'll have to test if the new version of the country template works at all with the film templates. Little excursion: You know that wiki tables are made of |'s. However, template code statements contain |'s too, but with a totally different function. So if you include a template with '''code'''-|'s in a table with '''table'''-|'s, the server might interprete the |'s belonging to the code as belonging to the table - which instantly messes up the whole table structure of course. This might have been the reason, but I'm not sure. I'll test this when the new nationality and country templates are there. So far everything with Up! is fine again; I included it in your filmography. As there are several 1976 films, please check if I puit it at the right place.


;3. Protect links
== Ahem... ==
See what I meant with affiliate links in the notes column? They exist, and we have to deal with them. Only that I did not expect them to appear on a page like Uschi's. The problem is:
* Normal editors are not allowed to add new protect tags. Which is the case if you create your user subpage Uschi from scratch.
* Normal editors are not allowed to remove existing protect tags. Which would be the case if you created your subpage without protects and then replaced the original filmography with your own one.
I really do not like these protect tags. They aren't even used consistently. I know they are set by admins to protect affiliate links from being removed; but in the last time, it was more the normal editors who added the affiliate links to their articles than the admins taking care of that. Which means that the big part of Boobpedia users understands how important the affiliate links are and rather adds the links instead of removing them. We seem to be more sensible than Wikipedia editors. Especially when I looked at a simple Wikipedia article yesterday, only by chance, and opened the history: Every second edit was some IP number idiot adding words like "suck your dick" "fluffy farts fly away in far farting forthcoming filth fuckers" (that already being invented and too intelligent for these apes) or whatever. But I understand that we need these tags to protect important paragraphs or links from being deleted.  


Enough said. '''What can you do?'''
Software update? I did not know anything about it until you told me... I then discovered the message on the main page. Well, the server is very slow so far... let's hope that's just the starting problems of a fast-working template-friendly era! :-) [[User:Prophecy|Prophecy]] 21:16, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
* Write your filmography on the Uschi subpage.
:Yeah, it's not really letting me look at anything besides User/User talk pages and the main page. [[User:Apara|Apara]] 22:07, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
* Do not add neither protect tags nor any notes at all.
* Paste your new filmography into the original title without deleting the original filmography.
* Move the protect tags, i. e. the notes wrapped by the protect tags, from the original into your new filmography.
You see, moving them around is not harmful, as long as
* the content between the protect and /protect tag is not changed
* no protect tag is deleted.


That's the only way it works.
== image uploading fixed ==


If you have any further questions, just ask. :-)
as if you didn't know already :) anything else just let me know. --[[User:Hexvoodoo|Hexvoodoo]] 20:50, 7 November 2008 (EST)


[[User:Prophecy|Prophecy]] 08:42, 8 August 2008 (EDT)
== Notes ==


: Of course, you can build your filmography around the protect tags too. But please note that this only works on the original page where the protect tags already are. You cannot build your filmography around the tags on your user subpage, because this would mean that you actually add protect tags to a new page. You could work on it and preview it on your user subpage, but only could save it on the original page. Be sure to always keep a copy in your clipboard or notepad if you work this way, because you have no saved interim version at all until you (successfully!) save the final version on the original page.
Yes, it was intentional. The Notes field was planned only for filmographies, as I saw that many people add them. Normally only for filmographies without templates, to be able to add stuff. Well, but I see that my creations grow and people find many ways to use them... But generally I think a field like Notes shouldn't be included in an infobox, as an article is the place to add notes. (And I admit I don't have the time to add this to the infobox. :-) ) Some of my late pictures and articles were corrupted due to the server update, so I'm busy repairing them... Hope you don't mind.


:Ah, there's another (really wicked) method of killing the protect tags (didn't tell you at first, but why not):
Regards
:* Write your filmography where ever and how ever you want. Add the affiliate links to it without protect tags.
:* In the original filmography, delete all text that is '''around''' the protect tags, not what's inside them.
:* Wrap those evil protect tags with the following: <code><nowiki><span style="display:none"> ... </span></nowiki></code>. This makes everything between the span tag invisible. The protect tags are still there, because you cannot delete them, but they do not appear in the article anymore. So you can move them to the end of your article and happily write your pure and clean filmography. You don't even do any harm, because you '''do''' use affiliate links. You simply do not let yourself be patronised by telling you where to place and how to edit affiliate links. :-)


:Two things left:
[[User:Prophecy|Prophecy]] 14:04, 11 November 2008 (EST)


:1.
== Well... ==
:Please tell me when you are ready with adding the affiliate links in this case. I had a certain format in mind, and I think it would be fine to agree on a standard when you continue editing your Asian performers and I go over to the more mainstream ones with other issues to be taken care of.


:2.
...let's do our thing, and they do theirs... here on Boobpedia the criteria are simple: bigger than B -> include. I like that. I wouldn't feel capable of judging if a performer is notable or not with all these "soft" criteria.
:Forgot. Wasn't so important, obviously. :-)


:Regards
[[User:Prophecy|Prophecy]] 10:20, 19 November 2008 (EST)


:[[User:Prophecy|Prophecy]] 10:35, 8 August 2008 (EDT)
: Hm, Mr. Kizu could be interesting, but all I know of him is that he's sooooo strict with his copyright! That's why I kind of dislike him - He has discovered a great model, but (to be frank) I seriously doubt his skills as a photographer. He should allow this girl to work with other fine art photographers. It's such a pity...


:: The problem is: One single character inside protect tags deleted by accident, and you cannot save the page anymore. And no way to find out where this was... I think the best way is to build the filmography outside, paste it and then remove the text around the protect tags one by one (and saving between the steps to see if you deleted something by accident which prevents you from saving), than put them in the display:none environment, or move the protect tags inside the film templates (which I do not like personally). [[User:Prophecy|Prophecy]] 12:23, 8 August 2008 (EDT)
: [[User:Prophecy|Prophecy]] 15:00, 19 November 2008 (EST)


::: Oh, that's really interesting! I'd never discovered that... Again: Who says Boobpedia cannot teach you something. :-) [[User:Prophecy|Prophecy]] 17:06, 8 August 2008 (EDT)
== Japan where I did not expect it ==


:::: Did you do it on your user subpage or in Uschi's real article? [[User:Prophecy|Prophecy]] 06:05, 9 August 2008 (EDT)
I don't know if you are interested in and familiar with Nadine Jansen, Milena Velba and their guest models - but if so, did you ever wonder why the pictorials of these (more mainstream/glamour) models often show elements of breast bondage, role play and manga? Or why there are videos of Bettie Ballhaus and Nadine Jansen walking through Tokyo?


::::: No no... I just saved the filmography into the page, above the old one. I then wanted to try to move the protect tags, but I cannot reopen the page for editing -> zero sized reply. Saving such a page is obviously a little work for the server. Hope I can edit the page later. If not - well, then we'd have to skip the whole idea, because the server is uncapable of handling big tables like this. :-( [[User:Prophecy|Prophecy]] 11:49, 9 August 2008 (EDT)
Well, I just found out while expanding the article on [[Bernd Daktari Lorenz]], their photographer. Now everything makes sense...


:::::: Can '''you''' open the page to edit? I still can't. [[User:Prophecy|Prophecy]] 13:28, 9 August 2008 (EDT)
Regards


== All movie guide ==
Prophecy
 
Yes, I saw it in the Wikipedia infoboxes on films too, but it was not mentioned here in Boobpedia so far - I thought. Good idea, I'll put it on my to do list. Have a look at {{tl|infobox film}} from time to time if I forget to tell you when I implemented it. [[User:Prophecy|Prophecy]] 00:38, 9 August 2008 (EDT)
 
== Russ Meyer ==
 
I think it's okay, as long as there are some visible busty women in it. But only because it's Russ Meyer. :) [[User:The Honorable|The Honorable]] 11:55, 9 August 2008 (EDT)


== Lost... ==
: Oooh! Thanks! I remember seeing a Tokyo Topless gallery with a Japanese model and his name when I collected material, but I lost the link and couldn't find it again when expanding the article. Here's the [http://tokyotopless.com/model/MarikoMORIKAWA/03/ Mariko Morikawa gallery] . There are guest galleries of [http://tokyotopless.com/model/BettieBALLHAUS/01/ Bettie Ballhaus], [http://tokyotopless.com/model/NadineJANSEN/01/ Nadine Jansen] and [http://tokyotopless.com/model/MilenaVELBA/01/ Milena Velba] on Tokyo Topless, too. It's a pleasure to work with you!


...5 hour's work after browser crash on a sophisticated article... *sigh* Next time I'll save half-ready sentences, no matter how funny they may be, but the server has my text. :-( [[User:Prophecy|Prophecy]] 16:12, 9 August 2008 (EDT)
: P. S.: Ah, there's one other gallery of a certain Julia that Lorenz did: http://tokyotopless.com/model/Julia/03/ Do you know anything about her? Besides the Morikawa gallery, this is the only one credited to Tokyo Topless and not to bettie-b.de, nadine-j.de or milena-velba.de like the other ones. I could not find her name on Boobpedia. [[User:Prophecy|Prophecy]] 11:34, 20 November 2008 (EST)


== Films in general ==
:: Oh, this would be cool if you started a stub... Don't forget to add <code><nowiki>[[Category:Bernd Daktari Lorenz models]]</nowiki></code>. :-) For Sofia Rose: Thorough work! And this is what Boobpedia needs. I only got back to my Bernd Lorenz article because I was doing something completely different: Browsing through German model databases, because some models and photographers were linked there. But then I saw a face and thought - don't I know her? It was a model who appeared on nadine-j.de long ago, I searched everywhere for her, but they gave her another name, so nothing came up. I have found two more Bernd Lorenz models in these databases, and nobody knows about it! I never thought it would be possible to keep some kind of "privacy" or "non-fame" if you once appeared on a site like nadine-j.de. I'll write the articles soon... [[User:Prophecy|Prophecy]] 17:00, 20 November 2008 (EST)
 
First about Eyes Wide Shut: I did not see the film. I wanted to add an article just for the sake of having a second article named "Eyes Wide Shut" and creating a disambiguation page. I read that a (BP-notable) actress was taking part in one single scene, which was an orgy scene. She did not have a real role and was even uncredited. All other actresses had small boobs. So my case is completely different from yours I think. The film may be somewhat sex-orientated, but it certainly has '''nothing''' to do with a big boobs film.
 
About your film: First I wanted to say: Add it, of course! But then I started thinking... These are my thoughts I'd like to point out:
* We should just consider one question: If someone wants to see big boobs in a film, would you recommend your film to him?
->
* A film with a busty actress only in one scene, without a notable role: Not. An article about the actress, yes, there the film can be mentioned.
* A film where one of the main roles is played by a busty actress. Yes. Yes yes yes. If you see her in many scenes, it doesn't have to be a boob film, has it? It's just that you can enjoy the nice view while following the film
* Your film: If she appears in several scenes and is part of the story, I'd say: Write your article. Write in it how and where the actress appears. If you have too less material, just write an article on her and mention the film in the article.
 
Just a few quick thoughts. Maybe I'll contradict myself in future articles. :-)
 
[[User:Prophecy|Prophecy]] 16:51, 9 August 2008 (EDT)
: Let's face it: Besides Russ Meyer films, there are no films with the properties that would make a film notable on Boobpedia. Except your Japanese films which do have a story, but focus on big breasts if I got you right. I'd say add it. But add the actress first. :-) [[User:Prophecy|Prophecy]] 17:05, 9 August 2008 (EDT)
 
== Suggestion ==


== Pin ups in Japan ==
Hi Dekkappai,
Hi Dekkappai,


I wondered why you used the strange "Name ... Role" syntax in your cast list of film articles, until I noticed that this might be the result of copying them directly from IMDb. Do you think it's too much work to adapt the lines to "Name - Role"? I used this syntax in my (much smaller) filmographies too, and I just saw that Wikipedia uses the same.  Just a suggestion.
I've been meaning to ask you, if Japan had any pin up publications, models, etc? Since the only ones I know of are from the Western world. [[User:Apara|Apara]] 01:06, 24 November 2008 (EST)
 
:I see, could you name a couple models if you can? [[User:Apara|Apara]] 01:51, 24 November 2008 (EST)
Double Agent 73: Oh... I feel an article on Doris Wishman coming up... :-)
::Thanks for the information, if you look at [[User:Apara|my user page]] and the articles I start here. You'll noticed I don't go past 1975 pin up related. Since to me, the art of it died then (which is probably why the popularity of Betty Page boosted in the 80s). So you can probably suspect my definition based on that. [[User:Apara|Apara]] 02:40, 24 November 2008 (EST)
 
[[User:Prophecy|Prophecy]] 23:56, 9 August 2008 (EDT)
 
: Oh no, no more tables. Look at [http://www.wikiporno.org/wiki/Lucy_Love this] to see what too much tables do to a page. Especially when there is basically no content. Stumbled upon this today, didn't know the site exists. I'm glad we have a better standard here... (Although I have to admit that our [[Lucy Love]] isn't much better. People are constantly adding films of hers, but nobody writes about the person. If I wanted to know something about her, I'd find nothing in the article. Nothing. As if Boobpedia was a film database... But perhaps someone will expand the article some day.) Leave the cast as a list, it's readable and comfortable for the eye. I'd prefer the - instead of the ..., but as I said: just a suggestion. ... normally means elision, so I thought the - would fit better. :-) [[User:Prophecy|Prophecy]] 00:54, 10 August 2008 (EDT)
 
==IMDb==
I've contributed to the IMDb for years, so I'm painfully aware of its flaws. :) I think it's probably ''slightly'' more reliable than Wikipedia, and we copy whole articles from them. If better sources than IMDb are available, that's fine; otherwise, I think it's acceptable for our purposes. [[User:The Honorable|The Honorable]] 20:31, 11 August 2008 (EDT)
: To be used in references or just used without supplying references (but it's obvious to everyone it's from IMDb anyway)? That's the big question. -[[User:Biguns|Biguns]] 05:22, 12 August 2008 (EDT)
:: I see no question here at all, much less a bigun... You should cite your facts, whatever the source is. It is never "obvious" where any information comes from. Any unsourced bit of information given at a Wiki-type article is basically useless hear-say. But if you want to write unsourced articles, go ahead. Boobpedia has no AfD process-- and I hope it never does-- so you don't have to worry about someone plastering ugly "unsourced" and "fact" tags all over your work and then having it removed. So go ahead and give us more unsourced articles and images. Just do us a favor and don't pick apart those editors who source their work, and who take the time to source yours. [[User:Dekkappai|Dekkappai]] 11:52, 12 August 2008 (EDT)


== Template concerns ==
== Japanese categories ==


Hi Dekkappai,
Hi Dekkappai,


yes and no. I couldn't edit Uschi either (edit: yes, but save: no). I think we'll have to revert the last edit, that's the only way to make the page editable again. You should copy your filmography on a personal subpage of yours until the issue is solved.
I had several messages that day, so I did not notice that you added to my talk page too, sorry. I'll have a look at the categories. [[User:Prophecy|Prophecy]] 05:16, 25 November 2008 (EST)
: The division into "Directorname films" is good, same as in {{cl|Photos}}. I'll look at your second question. [[User:Prophecy|Prophecy]] 08:32, 25 November 2008 (EST)
:: Yes, the Tokyo Topless merging is definitely wrong. It creates a monster article - and not even an article, because it will no longer be listed as an article. I did the same in the beginning with my photographer articles: Putting the article on top of the category. There are two huge disadvantages:
::*First of all: The photographer page was not listed in the results when the serach box was used. Categories are not listed. So it was as if the photographers weren't there at all.
::*Second: The articles became to long, and if you wanted to look for the mere category, i. e. a list of models shot by this photographer, you couldn't find them, because some articles became so long that you did not expect to find list of models at the end of it. (Cf. [[Katja Ehrhardt]] for example).
:: I think the Honorable did this in good faith, but I cannot second that at all. Please leave him a message and revert the merge. Feel free to cite my opinion. [[User:Prophecy|Prophecy]] 09:30, 25 November 2008 (EST)


But: It does not really seem to be the templates. I noticed several things when I edited a few "normal" articles during the past few days:
== Tokyo Topless ==
* Editing a "normal" article (mid-length): No problem
* Editing a long article (like [[Katja Ehrhardt]] for example): Sometimes the same problems as with Uschi: Zero sized reply
This means: It's not really the templates - it's the length of an article. The server seems to have reached a point where it has difficulties processing long pages. Katja Ehrhardt does not have a filmography in it, but it shows the same behaviour sometimes.


I don't know what to do. Perhaps the new Wiki software will help. Hexvoodoo told me he was looking for ways to implement it. For now, do what I recommended: Copy the filmography to one of your user subpages and wait... :-(
I was experimenting. :) I've undone the merges; hopefully I got them all. [[User:The Honorable|The Honorable]] 11:13, 27 November 2008 (EST)


As for your list: I expect the same problems with that. What astonishes me: Saving the big filmography to your userpages was possible, but as soon as it was in an article, the server wouldn't let us save the page. Perhaps it's the combination of a filmography '''and''' the biobox (which takes a lot of resources too) that makes the server stop. This would mean that you will perhaps be able to set up your Cinema Unit GAS list and save it, because there's not biobox in it. You should try on a user subpage first. If we have the resources to save it into an article one day, you will have it ready.
== BMI ==


[[User:Prophecy|Prophecy]] 19:08, 13 August 2008 (EDT)
Yes, a few months ago a new user who was very keen on programming introduced it. I found it too complicated too and never used it. The user has vanished too... But feel free to use it if you like! :-) [[User:Prophecy|Prophecy]] 22:42, 4 December 2008 (EST)


== Found this amusing ==
== Naming ==
Asian women with  prosthetic breasts: http://www.farangdingdong.com/ [[User:Apara|Apara]] 23:52, 15 August 2008 (EDT)


== Google translate ==
I say preserve the pun. :) [[User:The Honorable|The Honorable]] 18:48, 5 December 2008 (EST)


Fixed. The Honorable changed something in the template that caused the incorrect line break. [[User:Prophecy|Prophecy]] 15:49, 18 August 2008 (EDT)
== Liberty ==
: I cannot put that in italics, because I "misuse" the original title as well as the third title sometimes for original titles. Actually, you cannot be sure which title will contain the original title. I left it in normal characters, because Japanese letters look ugly if italicised. So only the main title is in italics, all others will be in normal letters. [[User:Prophecy|Prophecy]] 17:38, 18 August 2008 (EDT)
:: Oh, now I see that it was a misunderstanding. I confused inline citation and filmography. I think I can fix this. [[User:Prophecy|Prophecy]] 20:40, 18 August 2008 (EDT)
::: Fixed. [[User:Prophecy|Prophecy]] 22:19, 18 August 2008 (EDT)
 
== Biobox parameters ==


Hi Dekkappai,
Hi Dekkappai,


I already saw that someone "cleaned up" your article and expected some trouble... :-) As for frontal: Just have a look at {{tl|biobox new}}. There's an explanation for every field. I did not introduce the full frontal thing, and I do not understand the importance of such a field, so I just took the explanation from the old biobox. The definition is: Does she show her breasts and her vagina on the same picture or film. That's all. If so, feel free to revert the edit to your article. [[User:Prophecy|Prophecy]] 10:23, 19 August 2008 (EDT)
yes, of course these sculptures would qualify, I've already planned something with them. But they are not boob slips, because it was somewhat normal that at least one breast was exposed. So they belong in the "open bust" category - the category already exists and contains open bust clothes, and I'm planning to write an article on this some day. And yes, during my research for statues, I came across the American bigottery of course; it was Ashcroft. An article about this is already hidden in the references for [[Wardrobe malfunction]]: http://www.fineartregistry.com/articles/altabe_joan/artwork-nudity-letter46.php :-) [[User:Prophecy|Prophecy]] 09:48, 6 December 2008 (EST)
 
: Go ahead. {{cl|Films and videos by genre}} is there now. You could create subcategories like "BBW videos" and stuff. [[User:Prophecy|Prophecy]] 13:50, 7 December 2008 (EST)
== Video articles ==
 
Oh, it's totally up to you! I implemented the possibity to use bigger pictures that are automatically shrinked for filmographies, so if you find that a video is worth an article, you can just replace the picture by the bigger version.
 
Citizen Kane? Who is Citizen Kane? Does he have a big breasted wife? Is Rosebud a bra? I think I should start an article... :-)))))
 
As for still covering the basics: Yes, perhaps. But we should not forget to share our knowledge if we know more about a subject than others or than other sources provide. It's certainly also the broad coverage of performers that makes people come to Boobpedia, but I think they'll soon be disappointed if they only find: "XY is a porn star" (Ah, didn't know this!), together with some unsourced questionable measurements and "She did anal." I think it will be articles like Gaston Lachaise that will help build a real reputation for Boobpedia. I started quite a lot of articles too, because I found that all these big breasted latex models were underrepresented, but recently I thought that it was time to expand some of my articles and add the information I did not share so far.
 
I'm somewhat proud of my newly expanded article on [[Katja Ehrhardt]] - now it's by far the biggest collection of information on her in the whole internet. And it has loads of links to other articles (some of them still red), but that's what I have in mind: Readers who start reading an article, see links to other articles, read, click, read, click, find more, know more... and in the end they do not know where they started. That's what I like when I read in Wikipedia. Sometimes I only type in a word that interests me, and after a short time I find myself learning about molecular physics, astronomy, linguistics, history...


We can build this, each one of us with his special knowledge. I am not familiar with all those Japanese actresses, but I think even now Boobpedia is already the biggest collection of information about them in English language.
== database problems ==


[[User:Prophecy|Prophecy]] 20:12, 19 August 2008 (EDT)
yes tech performed a repair on the database. good to hear that the problem has been fixed :) --[[User:Hexvoodoo|Hexvoodoo]] 13:50, 7 December 2008 (EST)


== Cinema Unit GAS list ==
== Amazon jp affiliate links ==


Hi Dekkappai,
Alas, I think the template only works with American Amazons. :) You can continue to add it manually to Amazon JP listings if you want. [[User:The Honorable|The Honorable]] 21:51, 9 December 2008 (EST)


I noticed that too, I wasn't able to work for a short while and I think I closed the browser then. The disadvantage is: It will be difficult to edit lists that contain many film templates. We saw this on the Uschi Digard example. The advantage is: It will not be necessary to edit those lists much in the future. As there won't be MORE films released in 2007 (unless you forgot to mention one), no additions have to be made to the list. And if you find more data on a film, you can just change the template which will not affect the server.
== Chesty ==
When I saw her movie Deadly Weapons, she looked to be middled aged. In her later films, she does look a bit older. So the 1928 birth could be accurate and she's mostly like well into her 80s of now. I read somewhere she died in the 1980's, which is absurd and tottaly false. Her cup size doesn't seem to appear anywhere that I've look and I know she's bigger than an FF/G. So we can only go by her measurements. I've looked for info on her in the past and sort of ended up empty handed and wasn't aware of her interview with Gent. [[User:Apara|Apara]] 01:28, 20 December 2008 (EST)
:Seeing as you're creating a Chesty Morgan article from the ground up. I've been thinking of re-doing the [[Vicky Kennedy]] article I made earlier this year. Someone added the article from Wikipedia and I rarely touched since. Like how I re-did the article for [[Rosina Revelle]]. [[User:Apara|Apara]] 03:44, 25 December 2008 (EST)
::Thanks for the notes. I used a bit of it for the article on Goldfinger. I think I found all that I can find for now. [[User:Apara|Apara]]
:::Nice work on Chesty Morgan! FYI, supposedly [[Busty Russell]] was her inspiration. Maybe you read that from the research? [[User:Apara|Apara]] 00:20, 31 December 2008 (EST)


So the whole thing is still ambiguous... As for huge filmographies in arcticles that may be edited more often (like performer articles) I have my doubts if the concept can be kept without new Wiki software or a new server. As for your complete lists, I think the film template is the best thing that could happen. I looked through the list and I think it's really nice to look at, with a clear layout, easy to navigate and well structured.
== Do you happen to know..... ==
Who this is? http://www.moodyz.com/shop/-/detail/=/cid=mia391/ [[User:Apara|Apara]] 05:09, 3 January 2009 (EST)


Let's see what future practice brings. But be very careful if you want to add a large filmography to a performer article that might need to be edited in the future.
== Happy New Year ==


Regards
Just stopped by to say how agreeable your company as a fellow editor is - now that I know others.


[[User:Prophecy|Prophecy]] 07:25, 21 August 2008 (EDT)
[[User:Prophecy|Prophecy]] 06:50, 6 January 2009 (EST)


== Filmography, inline and references ==
== Fuko ==


Hi Dekkappai,
AV work? Uh oh ah! If only there weren't all these pixelations... I guess you as a connoisseur are already used to spot the things behind the pixels, like Superman with his X-ray eyes? Tell me your technique some day, please, so that I can enjoy Japanese pictorials and videos more... :-) [[User:Prophecy|Prophecy]] 18:38, 6 January 2009 (EST)
: Harumi: Wasn't me. :-) [[User:Prophecy|Prophecy]] 23:04, 6 January 2009 (EST)


huh, quite a lot of issues. :-)
== Reference ==
I might have, but not on purpose. I didn't notice, sorry about that. [[User:Apara|Apara]] 01:28, 7 January 2009 (EST)


# Series and Notes field: You are right, the series field <del>is</del> was simply not shown if a film is displayed as filmography entry. Please have a look at {{tl|Film listentry/testcases}}. I think your idea to have the series in the notes field is a good solution. I added this. If '''ofseries''' is specified, it's added as the first text in the notes field. If there are other notes (the actual content of the '''notes''' field), a line break is added and the notes are displayed in the line after the series. I think it looks ok like this; please tell me if you think so too. I'll implement this in the main template then. For now, it's only in the sandbox. You will have to correct (delete) your existing notes fields, because the series will be displayed twice then. :-)
== Sugguestion ==
# Reference not displayed after year in inline use: That's normal, because if a film is displayed inline, it takes the '''main release year''', not the '''released''' field. If your reference is in the '''released''' field, it won't be displayed. We cannot take the '''released''' field for the inline style, because it's not common to have a full date after a single mentioning of a film.
For [[Momoko Okada‎]], you could put all the info in one Biobox and label the measurements/cup size as the name she used. For example, "100cm/G metric as 'so and so'". So it won't look too messy. [[User:Apara|Apara]] 03:17, 13 January 2009 (EST)
# Reference in '''name''' field: No. That does not work. I first thought that this would destroy the display of a link to the corresponding article (if there is one), but my template is less vulnerable than I expected. :-) If there is an article, every reference is ignored and the normal link is displayed. I tested it with [[Supervixens]]. So you ''can'' add a reference behind a name, but as soon as there is an article, your work will be in vain - the reference simply vanishes.
:...thanks for the input, Apara... I'd considered that too, but thought it would make things a bit confusing, since, possibly, we're going to find different bio info under each name (these bios are are probably about as "real" as the stage names are). Also, I wonder how grouping all the data into one infobox that way would affect categories like "Cup size". With the three infoboxes, it puts the article into each category (as, I think, it should). Would listing several cup sizes in one infobox cause some sort of technical foul-up? And, actually, if I write up more on the model (she does interest me enough to devote some time to building up the article :-), I think I could make a separate bio section under each name, and put the infobox into the section for each name. Perhaps that will help the article look cleaner?... [[User:Dekkappai|Dekkappai]] 16:13, 13 January 2009 (EST)
# So what can we do? Nothing, I'm afraid. We simply cannot avoid a reference from being displayed in the reflist, but with no mark in the text. As soon as a template (the data container) contains a reference, it will be displayed in the reflist. No way to work around that. I first thought of adding a special reference field like you proposed in the beginning. But this would pose the following problems: First: Where do we put the reference sign for the inline use? The minimal appearance is only the film title, so it would have to be displayed directly after the name. This is somewhat stupid, because if you just write "Supervixens", there is not data to be referenced, but the reference is there... Second: What if we need more than one reference? Hm... no, you might be able to add two references in the ref field. Which makes a single film title even more stupid to look at ("Supervixens<ref>a</ref><ref>b</ref><ref>c</ref> is a cool film"), but this might be a solution. So we have the reference displayed in every possible case, you cannot put a reference to a specific field (release year has other source than cast, for example), but you can have all references together and the reader has to search where the information is.
::Separate bio sections would make it look cleaner. I think putting her current measurements/cup size on one biobox and putting her others under the categories. Also refer to them in that separate bio section. So when a observer reads them. It wouldn't be too confusing. So basically, Biobox of current name/stats/whatever else, then bio section of her with whatever name she used to known as, what she did, refer to her stats then, categorize them and so on. That's what I would do. But something can complicate this. I can't really think of anything that might would. [[User:Apara|Apara]] 20:43, 13 January 2009 (EST)
:::That sounds like it might work. Actually, I merged the article into her first name... But, as I told Prophecy, I will mark this article for research-- she's a subject who has interested me in all three of her names (before I knew they were all the same person). So I'll put the information together, and then see what looks like it will work best. I'll ask from input from you and the others when it starts falling into shape. Thanks again. [[User:Dekkappai|Dekkappai]] 22:30, 13 January 2009 (EST)


I think this would be acceptable. What's your opinion? Otherwise the only solution would be to not reference the film templates at all, but to add the reference every time you mention the film.
== Same person ==
 
[[User:Prophecy|Prophecy]] 16:09, 21 August 2008 (EDT)
 
: Done. Please delete the series from the notes field in your templates, as it's displayed double now. :-) [[User:Prophecy|Prophecy]] 16:48, 21 August 2008 (EDT)
 
== Non-template filmographies. ==


Hi Dekkappai,
Hi Dekkappai,


of course, you could copy the code from {{tl|filmography start}}, {{tl|film listentry}}and {{tl|filmography end}}, but I see no use? That's what I made the templates for: If you feel you won't need an article, just write the data manually in the {{tl|film}} template like you already did for some filmographies. So you've got the new filmography layout without having to bother about table code.
without having a look at the article &mdash; when I discover that measurements differ in several sources, I don't fill them in the biobox, but discuss them in a special section in the article text. That is what always should be done if sources differ. I think we can transfer this principle to your case too. I was just thinking of [[Linsey Dawn McKenzie]] who had a breast reduction and whose biobox still keeps her maximum bust size (as an homage I presume) :-). The proper way (for both your model and Linsey) would be to write a <sup>[see article]</sup> in the corresponding biobox field, with a link to the section where you mention the development (measurements, for example, is a free text field). Autometed fields like Bra size must be left empty, and the corresponding categories added manually at the bottom of the article. [[User:Prophecy|Prophecy]] 16:36, 13 January 2009 (EST)
: But it's only the measurements that change, isn't it? Having several bioboxes in one article poses the problem that bioboxes normally are put at the top of a page, with no way to change that. So you won't be able to put a biobox in a section further down an article, as far as I know... They'll be all at the top of the article. [[User:Prophecy|Prophecy]] 16:43, 13 January 2009 (EST)
:: This would be a precedence and a rare exception to Boobpedia, but if you think it's necessary to make three different articles (and if you have enough stuff to make all three of them more than a stub) &mdash; go ahead. I am still in favour of one single article. [[User:Prophecy|Prophecy]] 16:50, 13 January 2009 (EST)


[[User:Prophecy|Prophecy]] 23:41, 25 August 2008 (EDT)
== Please complare ==
[[Talk:Linafay]] Can you help me? [[User:Prophecy|Prophecy]] 16:29, 15 January 2009 (EST)


: I may be wrong, but I think that using the film template without real film templates behind it causes no problems. The server does not have to fetch the data for each and every filmography entry from a different template, but can "stay" in the article using the data you specify manually. I think it's only problematic if there are real templates behind it. [[User:Prophecy|Prophecy]] 23:59, 25 August 2008 (EDT)
== Can You Please Contact Me off of Boopedia? ==
I would appreciate it as I have a few things to ask you. Primarily from what I read on The Honurable's talk page and your interpretation of what was written on FUKO's wikipedia page I'm frankly saddened that you are willing to be "Boobpedia snitch." It serves no purpose to the truth in Boobs which no, you do not own a pair of, to be so nasty towards someone who really respects understands and is standing up for breasts as you seem to be. I question why, if you honor Boobs as much as you claim to, would you even mention a very important debate that occurred off this website. You seemed so amiable as well! I also have other things to ask you. Thanks
signed [[User:BreastKing|BreastKing]] 20:03, 23 January 2009 (EDT)


== Bettie Page ==
Hey Dekkappai


== Naked as Nature Intended ==
I was wondering if you have any interest in [[Bettie Page]]. I was thinking of rewriting the article and getting rid of the GDFL. [[User:Apara|Apara]] 17:56, 10 February 2009 (EST)
I was going to make a film template of this movie, and since you uploaded the movie poster: [[:Image:Naked as Nature Intended (1961).jpg]] Then I realized, none of the women in this film are big bust. You think I should do it anyways? Since about 50% of Harrison models were big bust anyways. [[User:Apara|Apara]] 20:16, 26 August 2008 (EDT)
:Excellent! You can send them as a JPEG to my [mailto:hemieric@yahoo.com e-mail]. I would ask you to send them as the PDFs, but I think my Adobe apps are screwy. [[User:Apara|Apara]] 17:56, 10 February 2009 (EST)
:Well the film was focused more on nudity, than breasts. They labeled it as a nudist film so the censors would allow the film. Harrison self, from what I've read was more of the art of naked women and publish the photos on magazines. For whoever enjoyed them. (I wish I had my hands on some). I'll ask the Honorable, see what he says. [[User:Apara|Apara]] 23:37, 26 August 2008 (EDT)
:Yeah I've been meaning to tell you, that I did. I haven't gotten around to read all of them yet. [[User:Apara|Apara]] 19:27, 19 February 2009 (EST)
::Yeah, that could work. I'll do it now. [[User:Apara|Apara]] 20:24, 31 August 2008 (EDT)


== Releases ==
== Sofia Rose ==
The image limit is only for fair use images, so we don't get sued. :) If the images are directly from Sofia, you can use as many as you like.


I think the first release is most important. Use the first release for the main release year field. You can list all other release dates in the released field and separate them with br. As done with different delease dates for countries - why not do it for formats too. :-)
We could certainly re-feature Sofia, now that she's been interviewed again. Our first two-time interviewee! [[User:The Honorable|The Honorable]] 18:08, 2 March 2009 (EST)


[[User:Prophecy|Prophecy]] 11:29, 31 August 2008 (EDT)


: No, not at all. The field was created exactly for this, as there are nearly always more than one release date. [[User:Prophecy|Prophecy]] 11:38, 31 August 2008 (EDT)
== Kelly Shibari ==
I didn't realized that page already existed. She looked fimilar, but I couldn't put my finger on it. If noticed, I would of reverted it. [[User:Apara|Apara]] 18:33, 4 March 2009 (EST)


== Kelly Shibari ==


== Newspaper Ads ==
My source is actually Kelly Shibari.  She was on Instant Messenger with me at the time and verified all the information that was put into the article.  I don't know exactly what to do here, is there possibly an email address I can have her write to to verify that it was her who gave me the information? - [[User:Kaobear|Kaobear]] 06:43, 5 March 2009 (EST)
Where did you happen to obtain those images of the ads? [[User:Apara|Apara]] 03:41, 2 September 2008 (EDT)
:It most likely could be her. The names are similar, she was a stripper in the 60's. It also looks like her. So I think we have a match.


== Linking years and dates ==
:Let me go ahead and talk with ehr and i will get back to you as soon as possible.  If she does say yes i would most definately appreciate any help that you could give me on the matter. - [[User:Kaobear|Kaobear]] 10:51, 5 March 2009 (EST)


There is no official policy. And as I am the only one who established '''all''' of the [[Chronology]] pages, I feel empowered to say: Let's make one!
::I can always ask her if she would like to do an interview with you if you like. get your own perspective on things and what not. - [[User:Kaobear|Kaobear]] 06:53, 6 March 2009 (EST)


'''My clear recommendation: Link all dates and years.'''
::: I have created [[Kelly_Shibari/Interview_With_Kelly_Shibari]] , could you help me source the article using that page please?  Thank you for all of your help. - [[User:Kaobear|Kaobear]] 06:31, 7 March 2009 (EST)


While developing the chronology pages, I sometimes pick a date and perform a search for it. This is very painful, because you get hits for a lot of birth dates and so on. But if you link all dates, it would become much more easer, because I can just go to the Wanted pages section and have a look what's new.
::::Thank you for all your help. - [[User:Kaobear|Kaobear]] 07:35, 8 March 2009 (EDT)


My chronology pages already made it to the [[Main page]] (see Today's birthdays and Today in boob history in the blue box to the right). These two lines only appear if corresponding articles exist (like today), and it would be very nice to fill all the days of the year with time.
== Back ==


So go ahead, your linking is appreciated very much.
Glad to know you'll be back! I couldn't answer you yesterday because the page did not load when I tried...


By the way, I'm starting a Boobpedia project on Featured Articles now. Will save the page within the next hour. We already talked a lot about this, and I want to hear other's opinions. Above all, I'd like to know if the criteria for featured articles are purely commercial or if the "people's voice" can convince the admins to put an article of our choice on the main page. :-)
Regards


Have a nice day
Prophecy


Prophecy
== Producer template ==


: Yes, right, I agree. I see no use of linking accessdate and date within citations. In my opinion, a date link helps the user to find the general chronological context of an event mentioned in an article. I guess there is no benefit in knowing what happened when a user accessed a source. :-) However, it could be useful for "date": It could be nice to know what happened when a source was written. But I leave that up to you. Link what you want. :-)
Hi Dekkappai,


: About the commercial reasons: I'd like that too, but I think we'd have to accept if there are commercial reasons for the inclusion of an article on the main page. We do not have the financial resources as Wikipedia has, and as long as we do not know if websites or models pay Boobpedia for the inclusion, we cannot just decide...  
I think you should just post an image (logo) at the right top of the page like I did for articles that do not have a template like [[breast bondage]] or [[adhesive tape]]. The {{tl|manufacturer}} template would not work. It has some general company information, but it lacks additional fields for specific data of a film company or studio. Apart from this, I'd like to have it a different colour scheme. :-)


: But honestly, I think that the only criteria so far was the Boobpedia interview. A concept which is in itself contradicting the encyclopedic approach, but who cares - we have always been something special. What really annoys me is that the quality of both the articles and the interviews is - er - poor. No sources, loads of pictures in a bad layout, film lists and nearly no information. The interviews do not mention who led the interview, and often they do not even print the questions. Is this a Boobpedia version of Jeopardy? Furthermore, it does not improve the quality of an article if a model is showing a sheet with "XY loves Boobpedia" into the camera. We are not a porn site for teenagers.
Apara also asked me if we should not have a publication/magazine/book template, and I have also thought of a website template. I think I should start programming again some day... :-)


: That's just my opinion, but I can understand why others laugh at this. I think we have become a lot better than that with time. Let's show it to the world!
Regards


: Prophecy
[[User:Prophecy|Prophecy]] 18:39, 27 March 2009 (EDT)


== Dixie Evans ==
== Sample clips ==


Thanks for the extra info, Greetings and Cheers to You too for Your Great Work here.--[[User:Kamui99|Kamui99]] 00:34, 3 September 2008 (EDT)
I see no problem with linking to clips posted by an official source (producer, distributor, etc.). Link away! [[User:The Honorable|The Honorable]] 21:10, 29 March 2009 (EDT)
: There are worse things to be bombarded with... :) [[User:The Honorable|The Honorable]] 21:27, 29 March 2009 (EDT)


== Breast bondage ==
== Template problem ==


Hi Dekkappai,
Hi Dekkappai,


as you are the expert for Japanese models, you will have certainly more than often seen them in bondage. I'm planning to extend some breast-related themes here. It all began with nipple slips, but then I saw that we have nothing on breast bondage (which suits very well for big breasts), breast jewellery and all that stuff. I have collected some sources on breast bondage, but to my astonishment, even Wikipedia did not offer too much. Except for the German Wikipedia, which even has a Wikibook about how to do breast bondage right.
I experienced the same problem too. I think your way is a good solution. Another way I sometimes use then I edit other parts of an article containing a filmography: I comment the filmography out (<nowiki><!-- --></nowiki>) while working on the article and remove the comment tags when I finally save it. So the page loads quickly during the editing process.
 
The masters of this art are Japanese, and the roots as well. So I wondered if you have some knowledge of the topic or even access to sources I might not find because of language barriers. Did you really abandon the thought of working together? I enjoyed our collaboration very much so far, so I think it would be fine if you could help me a little bit.
 
Please read my last reply on the citations issue regarding Rosina. I think we only misunderstood each other.


Regards
Regards


[[User:Prophecy|Prophecy]] 09:01, 5 September 2008 (EDT)
[[User:Prophecy|Prophecy]] 08:04, 3 April 2009 (EDT)


: Thanks for your info so far. I found "Shibari" too and was astonished when I saw what it means. :-)
== Re: Older, less-busty busty series? ==


: About Wikipedia: I want no respect from Wikipedia. But I understand why Boobpedia is often not taken serious. That's why I started the project, in order to improve our articles. Now I understand why you were angry; I don't like edit conflicts too... But I had none and was not aware that you tried to save the page at the same time. About my quoting Wikipedia citation rules: Not everything is bad in Wikipedia, and the short quoting of sources with pages and the mentioning of the whole book in bibliography seems to make sense to me. Exactly what you did, by the way. I did not edit the article on Rosina further, because I was not able to find even a tiny bit of information to quote. But it needs some copy-editing, that would be your job, you are a native speaker.
I think your suggestion ("Maybe just start the series articles, and not articles on the individual actresses/videos?") sounds fine. [[User:The Honorable|The Honorable]] 21:01, 14 April 2009 (EDT)


: I don't want to copy Wikipedia. But Boobpedia already has the "Featured article" feature. So let's use it, but produce better articles to be displayed on the front page.
== Template Lists ==


: And after all, I have no bad experiences with Wikipedia, because I never wrote anything there. This allows me a quite unbiased point of view when I look at their features. And I think I wouldn't like to be involved in those edit wars taking place there. About your being cantankerous at times as you mentioned it: Well, I noticed a pretty amount of hostility when I followed your discussion with and about a user known for edits not supported by everyone. But I stayed outside deliberately, because it would have taken too much time to contribute, and I was busy developing other things. I'm not an admin and not a moderator, but I think the discussion could have been a bit less emotional. But I understand you well, because we both seem to be quite pedantic and exact in our work and goals. But that's another topic.
Do you know how to make template list, like the [[DanniGirls]] one? [[User:Cost|Cost]] 05:58, 7 May 2009 (EDT)


: Back to breast bondage: Perhaps just wait until I start the article and see what I already have, so we avoid double research. For the time being, I'm expanding [[wardrobe malfunction]], but already collecting links and pictures for breast bondage.
:Hi, Cost. I had not noticed this sort of list template. You can see from most of my articles-- actress articles such as [[Hana Uehara]] or list articles such as [[List of Cinema Unit GAS DVDs: 2009]]-- that I've been using the filmography templates quite a bit. I didn't know about this type of list template... I'm not sure that the articles I work on could use this format though... I'll investigate it more. Thanks for pointing this out! [[User:Dekkappai|Dekkappai]] 09:24, 7 May 2009 (EDT)
::On second thought... I came across a list of the ranking of busty and BBW actresses by month and year at a particular site... maybe I could use this for that. It seems to me that the list would be better with an image of the actress though. [[User:Dekkappai|Dekkappai]] 16:23, 7 May 2009 (EDT)
:::I've made film templates before, and they're pretty straightforward. [[Penthouse Pets]] (which is 4.5 years out of date btw) also has a group of templates like that. See [[Sunny Leone]] for example. It seems Prophecy made the latest one, so I'll ask him. [[User:Cost|Cost]] 10:22, 8 May 2009 (EDT)


: Have a nice day (night?)
== List templates ==


: [[User:Prophecy|Prophecy]] 18:00, 5 September 2008 (EDT)
Hi Dekkappai,
 
:: Of course I got all your notes on breast bondage, thank you very much. But as I said, I don't work on the subject at the moment, I just collect and return to them later... [[User:Prophecy|Prophecy]] 14:43, 7 September 2008 (EDT)
 
::: Seeing the paizuri article being extended was one of the reasons why I started with other related articles. Breasts are our main topic, so it's a shame we have so little information on all that. Paizuri, breast bondage and all that stuff are to become a larger system of information here. I want the "reasearch" category to be replaced by some more specific stuff one day. [[User:Prophecy|Prophecy]] 15:17, 7 September 2008 (EDT)


:::: :-) Of course there will be a section about nipple clamps, chains and stuff... [[User:Prophecy|Prophecy]] 05:07, 8 September 2008 (EDT)
you mentioned that the list templates on the model pages offer an advantage, while you couldn't see an advantage of the list templates on the list pages. Well - there are three advantages:


== If you like... ==
# They are both one and the same template! Just have a look at {{tl|2007_dannigirls}} for example. It's explained in the documentation. If you add nothing, it appears as a navbox, if you add style=list, it becomes a list.
# This once said, the second advantage seems obvious: Once an update is made to the template (for example when a new model in the current year is added), the change appears both on the model pages and in each and every list on Boobpedia.
# As it was sometimes difficult to decide whether a vintage playmate has a C cup or not, I left the decision to the people who would write an article on the model one day. The model name appears as normal black if there is no article yet, but if someone writes an article on the model, her name turns into a link both in every navbox and every list on Boobpedia. So this way of mentioning the models is highly future-compatible.


Hi Dekkappai,
About the thumbs - This is a thought which I carry with me since a long time. It '''would''' be possible. Photographer templates already have a thumb:
{{photographer|Martin Perreault|header=1}}
It's the photo in the biobox of the article, but it's added manually to the template. So if someone changes the picture in the article, it will not be changed in the template. And this is the problem: So far, only very few editors have written articles on photographers, and the probability that someone changes a picture is neglectable. But the biobox pictures of female models are changed quite often, and unfortunately there is absolutely no way of saying: "Take the picture from the corresponding biobox" to a template. Well, there is a way: The biobox could have different styles, just like the film template has: As an infobox on a page, but only as a list entry in a list. But there is one huge disadvantage which makes it impossible to implement this feature: You already know how slow a page gets if you have 10 films in a filmography. Now imagine a page with 100 models listed on it! It would just look like a page with 100 single text lines, but actually it is a page with 100 full bioboxes, including all the huge and complex code a "normal" biobox contains - together with 33 other templates included in each and every biobox. Tried on one page, this would instantly knock Boobpedia's server out.


fist of all, here's the chapter in the FAQ introducing the "If you like..." system:  [[FAQ#How does the model recommendation feature work?]] I do not support this section personally. I think it was introduced following some discussion threads and message boards, but not encyclopedic approaches. There is something good in them, and when I feel that a reader might want to read further information about similar topics, I put it in a "See also" section, linking to non-external pages within Boobpedia. I first thought that an "If you like" link was really appropriate from [[8209 (torsolette)]] to [[7132 (torsolette)]], because they objectively '''are''' very similar garments made by different manufacturers - but I'll use those links in a "See also" section too.
There is no way to "exclude" the complex code and other templates if a biobox is just displayed as a list entry. They are always there. Unfortunately. So my answer is:


Concerning all the other "If you like" links: Sometimes they are good (for example, linking from [[Bea Flora]] to [[Aneta Buena]] makes sense, the similarity is undeniable), but I know what you are talking about. There's a user on Boobpedia whose main work seems to be adding "If you like" links, preferably from European models to Asian ones. These recommendations are sometimes hard to understand, and if I see absolutely no similarity, I delete them - like other users do too. But sometimes I think it's not bad that some Euro-centric readers get to know more about these gorgeous Asian big bust models, so I let them stay in the article. What I don't understand is the permanent adding of links to non-existent articles. But perhaps some day these articles are created and we'll see.
No, thumbnails are not possible. :-(


My personal recommendation (reminding I'm not an admin): Delete them if you do not see any similarity at all. Discuss them if the similarity is questionable. Boobpedia does have this feature, so we cannot avoid it from being used. And if a user sees his main task in browsing Japanese databases and adding links from European models to Japanese one, this may be a good thing in certain cases, too. I don't think the user will be offended if you talk to him and ask what his reasons were to add a link in question. Communication is the solution, I think.
[[User:Prophecy|Prophecy]] 16:54, 8 May 2009 (EDT)


Regards
== Model ID request ==


[[User:Prophecy|Prophecy]] 07:36, 7 September 2008 (EDT)
By all means, feel free to post ID requests. :) [[User:The Honorable|The Honorable]] 20:14, 18 May 2009 (EDT)


P. S.: Answer to your previous message follows.
== Voluptuous Body Type Category ==


== Wardrobe malfunctions ==
True, it is easy to toe the line between busty and voluptuous but I really meant for the term to describe females who are not only busty but have curves and a healthy butt. Also remember that voluptuous does not necessarily mean "big-boobed". For eg. Roselyn Sanchez is voluptuous yet she only has B-cups. The reason why I don't want to settle with just removing average and just throwing people in categories which best describe them is that I believe in accuracy. A body type should be something that helps define the women on this site. Some guys like ladies on the skinnier end and others (like me) prefer the thicker chicks. Inaccuracies will result in persons who like to come here and search through the body types of their preference possibly feeling disgruntled. Speaking of accuracy, what then do you do with ladies such as [[Kim Kardashian]]. She is clearly not "skinny" and clearly not "chubby", so where does that leave her? Average is not an accurate description.


Hey, thanks for the [[Jayne Mansfield]] hint, great! I already marked her name in the (hidden) "to do" list in my article. I'm still collectiong historical incidents, and this one fits very well. [[User:Prophecy|Prophecy]] 08:01, 7 September 2008 (EDT)
I understand that the cateogries may be subjective but I believe this is a legit body type.


== Wikipedia ==
--[[User:DuanCulo|DuanCulo]] 20:29, 11 August 2009 (EDT)
:Good points, Duan. Like I say though, I'm not a fan of the whole category, and usually don't use it at all. You'll have to talk to other editors to get it implemented. Regards. [[User:Dekkappai|Dekkappai]] 22:14, 11 August 2009 (EDT)


Sad to hear what happened. But I experienced it the other way round too. While collecting material on [[Susan Wayland]] (one of my articles still with a stub status), I saw that her Wikipedia article was marked for deletion for notability reasons. It led to a discussion on the forum of her site, and members started to improve the article. It's still marked for copy-editing (for good reasons), but it stayed at Wikipedia.
== Main Page activity ==


As for the rest: Well, it's up to us to do it better her at Wikipedia. And besides, I am sure if there will one day be a link from Wikipedia to [[Gaston Lachaise]] if it's further developed, or [[Katja Ehrhardt]], I think they will have a different opinion (not "just another porn site"), because one cannot deny that the Gaston article on Wikipedia is more than poor, whereas ours is well-developed.
A good suggestion. I've changed the Main Page's discussion page so that it can be used to post suggestions for the main page. Suggest away! :) [[User:The Honorable|The Honorable]] 21:35, 22 January 2010 (EST)


Ah, and Wikipedia does have an article on breast-binding, but the German Wikipedia source was better - and I think we can produce an article of at least the same quality.
== would like to feature some japanese models ==


Regards
hi dekk,


[[User:Prophecy|Prophecy]] 08:07, 7 September 2008 (EDT)
i'd like to get some suggestions from you as to what some of your favourite japanese model articles are. i plan to put at least three on the main page in the near future, one as a featured article, and the other two in the "busty women you may not know" section. i'm sure you have some good ones in mind. thanks in advance! --[[User:Hexvoodoo|Hexvoodoo]] 17:52, 25 August 2010 (EDT)


== Wikipedia deletions ==
:thanks for the recommendations. i have put them on my to do list --[[User:Hexvoodoo|Hexvoodoo]] 20:58, 2 September 2010 (EDT)


I moved your [[User:Dekkappai/Wikipedia deletions]] to [[User:Dekkappai/Wikipedia deletions]] to fix that slash, in case you were wondering. :) [[User:The Honorable|The Honorable]] 20:25, 7 September 2008 (EDT)
== Deletions ==
: Whoops, sorry about that. :) [[User:The Honorable|The Honorable]] 20:42, 7 September 2008 (EDT)


== Videos ==
Sorry about that -- I was deleting images on the [[http://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Special:UnusedFiles unused files list]], and they were on it for some reason. I will un-delete them posthaste. [[User:The Honorable|The Honorable]] 16:37, 1 October 2010 (EDT)


Hi Dekkappai,
== Real names ==


glad to see the "videos" category being populated. :-) But I did not quite understand your question. Where did you want to take away a "films" category? {{tl|infobox film}} automatically categorises an article following the type you specified in the template, so there's not need to specify a category manually. I already created all categories for the types, although they may be still empty at the moment. (Ah, another premiere: I just created the first [[television series]] recently: [[Der Container Exklusiv]].) :-)
We've removed real names and birth names from the biobox, and per [[Boobpedia:Policy]], will only permit them now if the article subject has released it or doesn't mind it being known, and there's a reference. For example, [[Jenna Jameson]] gives her real name in her autobiography, so that's fine; [[Angelina Jolie]]'s full birth name is widely known, so that's fine. But if the article subject doesn't want their real name publicized, then it's not allowed here.


Perhaps you had previously assigned the "Films" category manually to the article. If your question was if this was inappropriate: Yes, the "Films" category is meant for movies on celluloid. Perhaps I should specify that somewhere. Oh, I see I already did at the head of the category: "This category contains films commonly released for cinemas (at least not primarily released as video tape or DVD)." :-)
And I had been wondering what those Japanese characters in the "real name" field were; thanks for enlightening me. :) [[User:The Honorable|The Honorable]] 17:23, 11 July 2011 (EDT)


Regards
== Re: Boin "Holly James" Box / Holly James ==


Prophecy
Hey D, they are two different Holly James.  The one I posted (and now there is a photo) is the Holly James I had in mind.  I think she is British Iranian. [[User:Silicone Valley|Silicone Valley]] 21:45, 20 September 2011 (EDT)


: Had a look at the article history and saw what you meant. Yes, removing Category:Films was right in my opinion. [[User:Prophecy|Prophecy]] 17:13, 11 September 2008 (EDT)
== image redirect ==


:: The explanation is already there, including DVD. :-) [[User:Prophecy|Prophecy]] 17:23, 11 September 2008 (EDT)
hi dekk, i looked into this. all recent versions of mediawiki have this problem, but there is a hack for it. i've used that fix and it should be working properly now. --[[User:Hexvoodoo|Hexvoodoo]] 19:10, 22 September 2011 (EDT)


== Video release dates ==
== Hikari Hino ==


Well, I did it with Supervixens on [[April 2]]. It's a question of notability I think. And we don't have rules on notability... Here are my thoughts (to be discussed):
hmm i edited that page because it was in [[:category:Playboy NSS models]]. i don't know who tagged that article with that category, but i have to add the template to every article in the category. --[[User:Hexvoodoo|Hexvoodoo]] 00:46, 4 October 2011 (EDT)
* I think every Russ Meyer film is notable.
* I think videos are not notable unless it is the very first film of a performer or her first film of a new/different genre (first hardcore, first fetish).
Otherwise I fear that contributors like those enlargening the [[Lucy Love]] article with new films every day could start adding all of the films of a performer to the date categories - which would in fact turn them into filmographies. What do you think? [[User:Prophecy|Prophecy]] 11:48, 14 September 2008 (EDT)


: That's what said: I too think that every Russ Meyer film deserves mention. I started with Supervixens for [[April 2]], but just did not continue, because you were still working on all the Russ Meyer film templates at that time. As for your other suggestion: Yes, sounds fine. The first time a model appears on film is worth a mention I think. And the first videos of a whole series that becomes famous (at least to fans of the genre) is certainly worth being mentioned too. Well, let me then introduce you to some things that must be considered when adding a new "day" page. That might help you to set up one of your skeleton files:
== Image size ==
:;Day - Your event
:* Go to {{cl|Days}} and copy the code example. As we do not have pages for all dates of the year yet, some pioneer work has to be done first.
:* Paste the code into your new page, for example [[March 9]].
:* Adjust the month and day in the first and the last two lines (change "august" to "march" and the month and day numbers to "03" and "09".
:* Click on "Show preview".
:* The "Events" header shows an example entry. You can add your event here ("2007 - The first two videos of the XY series are released") or similar.
:* '''Do not change the code of the headers! They help you to find if there are further events to be mentioned and simply disappear if there are none.'''
:;Day - Births and deaths
:* This was the nice part. Now comes the dirty one: If you can see a header named "Births" or "Deaths", it means that there '''are''' births or deaths to be mentioned. If not, you can just comment out the example entries with <nowiki><!-- and --></nowiki>.
:* If the header for births or deaths appears, you can just click on it (I recommend right click and "open in new window"). You now have to add all the entries that are shown in the respective category. You have to look up the year and the occupation of the model. Don't wikilink the nationality; otherwise the whole line is blue.
:* If your page is ready: Save it. The example [[March 9]] was easy, because there was just one birth. There can be up to 10 or more births on one day.
:;Year
:* Edit your new page again and copy the code of your new event to the clipboard.
:* Click on the year of the event in your newly created page. It leads you to the year.
:* Paste the code of your event at the right place in the Events section.
:* Change the [[2007]] (in this case) to [[March 9]].
:* Save the page.


:I did it for March 9, feel free to change the text for the Maple Muffin entry. If you have any further questions, just ask. :-)
You'll have to talk to Hexvoodoo about that; I don't think I have access to configure that. [[User:The Honorable|The Honorable]] 23:09, 21 January 2012 (EST)


:Basically, you have to do the following:
== Re: Welcome ==
:# Create the day page and add your event.
:# Add all relevant births and deaths manually.
:# Add your event to the corresponding year page.


:Lucky you if the day page already exists, so you only have to add your event to the day and the year page. :-)
Hi, Dekkappai


:Regards
Thanks for the Welcome! I love japanese models and i'll try create more articles about them! [[User:Battlekenya|Battlekenya]] 22 January 2012 (EST)


:[[User:Prophecy|Prophecy]] 12:31, 14 September 2008 (EDT)
== Only one nude picture ==


:: Good idea, but as long as the sections are so small I think we can get along with a general header. [[User:Prophecy|Prophecy]] 13:27, 14 September 2008 (EDT)
[[User:Athanatophobos|Athanatophobos]]   23 January 2012


== Bukkake Source ==
Hello,


I got that info from [http://www.erosblog.com/2008/05/04/bukkake-spam-and-a-pic/ erosblog.] I wanted to add that as a citation, but I forgot to.
It's not really a rule, but I know [[User:The Honorable|The Honorable]] said that would be good if we put only one nude picture of the Boobpedia models in their pages.


Anyways, I never fact-checked that, and judging from what you wrote on my talk page, it seems as though I (and erosblog) are wrong.
So, I try to do that when I see several nude photos of the models by keeping just one of them. The pages are cleaner like that.


:Sorry about that commotion... [[User:Cost|Cost]] 01:36, 15 September 2008 (EDT)
Sorry for my English, I'm French. I hope you understood me.


::You're British?
Regards.


::How do women get selected for interviews here? And how do they get interviewed? It seems as though all of them just talk about their upbringing, when they hit puberty, and when they lost their virginity. Can't we add some roe spice to that?
== Thanks a lot ==
::[[User:Cost|Cost]] 01:41, 15 September 2008 (EDT)


== Links in film entries ==
[[User:Athanatophobos|Athanatophobos]] 25 January 2012


Hi Dekkappai,
Hello,


the reason why there's no link on the Oppai label page is that you already '''are''' on the Oppai label page. :-) A link that leads to the same page it is displayed on is displayed bold and without link. That's why Towa Mitsui's name is not linked on her own page either, but on the Oppai label page. [[User:Prophecy|Prophecy]] 06:11, 15 September 2008 (EDT)
Thanks for your congratulations. There are millions glamour models on Earth, so there is a lot of works on Boobpedia.
I hope my work is good. I will keep on adding pages about these beautiful women around the world.
: Ditto. Thanks also, Dekkapai. I can see that you've put in a lot of quality work over the years. --[[User:Loose cannon|Loose cannon]] 11:22, 25 January 2012 (EST)
:: Well, thank you too! [[User:Dekkappai|Dekkappai]] 16:05, 25 January 2012 (EST)


== Playboy templates ==
== DMM ==


Thanks, glad you like it.
Hello, Dekkappai! It's really strange, because i'm able to use the DMM website and i'm from outside Japan too! (i'm from Brazil).
the DMM site changed and some olds links that used for ''reference'' are not available anymore! but I've not any problemm to acess the site!
I don't know how can i help you now!
[[User:Battlekenya|Battlekenya]]00:10, 19 April 2012 (EDT)


I did not do it before, because there are playmates with less than a C cup among them. On the other hand, I was astonished that articles on some of them appeared, although I judged them less than C. So I chose the ifexist method - the link is black, and if someone creates an article, it becomes blue. :-) [[User:Prophecy|Prophecy]] 13:00, 15 September 2008 (EDT)
== Re: Great Work ==


I did know about the lower restriction! i'm trying to put all madonna's movie. but some movies has F-Cup actress or lower.  for example, Yu Kawakami is D-Cup, probably, her article and movies will be excluded, right?


== Japanese AV idol, GAS, etc DVDs ==
Thanks for the warning! [[User:Battlekenya|Battlekenya]] 12:14, 22 August 2012 (EDT)
I was wondering have you seen and/or own any of these films? I got my "hands" on one recently. Well more like downloaded off the internet. ;) It featured....[[Rio Hamazaki]] and someone else I forgot her name. [[User:Apara|Apara]] 03:00, 17 September 2008 (EDT)


== Pocha Pocha Princess Pretty: Usagi ==
== Blog hosts ==
Yeah, there are '''way''' too many fair use images on that article. More than three or four is probably pushing it. [[User:The Honorable|The Honorable]] 11:35, 17 September 2008 (EDT)


== Image deleted ==
Have you looked into [http://www.tumblr.com/ Tumblr]? I don't know if it's quite what you're looking for, but it is free, and there's all kinds of porn on it. :) [[User:The Honorable|The Honorable]] 20:01, 1 October 2012 (EDT)
:Hi Honorable. I wasn't aware Tumblr was a blog host, but God knows I've swiped-- er, borrowed-- plenty of images from it through the years... I'll look into it! Thanks! [[User:Dekkappai|Dekkappai]] 23:46, 1 October 2012 (EDT)


Thanks, yes, his roll in this game is wannabe the ''inquisitor'' and ''perfect prefect'', this' his page, the only ones things we can do are to write and to keep silence, silence or do our own site; i came time ago fleeing from the annoying wikipedia rules, with the Hexvoodoo promise that here not would have those rules, and sight, how came to fall here; but well, what remedy, our boob pasion keep us here. Greet You. --[[User:Kamui99|Kamui99]] 02:20, 21 September 2008 (EDT)
Hey, congratulations on making the IMDb top contributors list! [[User:The Honorable|The Honorable]] 17:02, 4 January 2013 (EST)
:Thanks, Honorable! Unfortunately I've been neglecting work here for IMDb. Most of those Pink Films I'm working on over there don't fit into Boobpedia's "notability" standards ;-) Once I'm done over there, I'll dig in here again! Happy New Year to you and all our fellow Boobpedians! [[User:Dekkappai|Dekkappai]] 14:10, 7 January 2013 (EST)


== Template Trouble ==
== I wonder? ==


Hi Dekkappai,
How do I know which pictures are copyright?
For example, all picture in [[Tia (AV idol)]].[[User:Manzzzz|Manzzzz]]
:Hi, Manzzzz. My understanding is that they're <i>all</i> in copyright, and we are using them under Fair Use practice as commentary/illustration of the subject-- the actress or the video. But I wouldn't be the one to ask about this... Hexvoodoo or The Honorable can give you Boobpedia's policies on this better than I... Cheers! [[User:Dekkappai|Dekkappai]] 02:56, 19 May 2013 (EDT)


I couldn't even load the page - seems that we have reached the limits of the current system and server. After I tried to load the page (which wasn't displayed), the server crashed. So if YOU are still able to load it, please revert your last addition of the tempates. It seems that a page can handle many film templates if the data is filled in manually, but not if there are "real" film templates behind the entries. Sad... :-(
== JAV reviews ==


[[User:Prophecy|Prophecy]] 14:26, 23 September 2008 (EDT)
Sure, as long as you don't add a bunch of galleries and spam links to your reviews. :) [[User:The Honorable|The Honorable]] 15:04, 8 September 2013 (EDT)


: It's even worse. I '''know''' that the Cinema Unit GAS lists displayed well, but they don't load either at the moment. Perhaps it's the overall amount of appearances of the film template that makes it difficult for every page that has them in it. Don't know. Every time I used only a few filmography entries in an article, all went fine. I first thought that the server needed time to restructure itself and establish all the internal links until it went back to consciousness (like "Fuck off, I'm working!"), but a look at the statistics page showed that the job queue length is 0. There must be other processes going on when saving a template, but as long as Hexvoodoo is not able to provide some logs or further information about the system, I cannot do anything... [[User:Prophecy|Prophecy]] 16:45, 23 September 2008 (EDT)
== Election of 2016 ==
Making an unauthorized political statement by removing [[Ivanka Trump]] from my watch list... Shit... [[Eleanor Roosevelt]] had much better tits... and they were natural!... [[User:Dekkappai|Dekkappai]] ([[User talk:Dekkappai|talk]]) 22:26, 14 November 2016 (EST)

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Amazon link

Hey, I didn't know we had an Amazon affiliate thing. :) For search URLs at Amazon.co.jp, I think adding &tag=boobpedia-22 to the end of the URL should work. I'm not sure how it works with links to product pages at Amazon Japan, though. The Honorable 20:47, 24 September 2008 (EDT)

Minka

I think the way your suggestion for clarifying that Minka is from South Korea but works in the U.S. is fine. The Honorable 18:39, 27 September 2008 (EDT)

ID links

I see absolutely no problem. GAS-45 or GAS 45 is a unique identifier, and a person who searches would be happy to be led to the article - at least I think so. No one would search for a gas station here. :-) Prophecy 16:02, 28 September 2008 (EDT)

"Unreferenced" tag

Please be careful about calling edits "vandalism"; an "unreferenced" tag to an article is usually well intentioned, and isn't the same as actually defacing an article. The Honorable 16:34, 28 September 2008 (EDT)

Paintings

I prepared the category long ago when you came up with the sculptures, because I knew that there would be paintings and painters some day... The way I found Juliette Fretté is quite bizarre: I wanted to have another Juliette after writing the Juliette (bra) article, just to have a disambigation page. I then discovered that we already had her mentioned in the Playboy Playmates template for 2008, and then I saw that she's really quite unique: She wrote her thesis on feminist theories about Playmates and became one herself! :-)

As for the opera: Good idea, but: The opera itself does not specify nude scenes, so the article would have to be about the singer/actress herself. But very nice idea. I like it if we do not only have those ol' porn stars. I'm weary of seeing just another picture of those artificial people. Other genres freshen Boobpedia up I think. But that's only my opinion...

Prophecy 12:40, 29 September 2008 (EDT)

Re: Another ethical dilemma

You don't have to credit the Wikipedia article if you're not using it directly. A link to the Wikipedia article in the references or external links section might be nice, if the article is worth linking to. The Honorable 18:50, 1 October 2008 (EDT)

Anna Semenovich

Hi Dekkappai,

thanks, I'll look at it later. Prophecy 18:13, 4 October 2008 (EDT)

Uh, there's much to think about, and different approaches to writing articles. Some of them new, but useful and better than mine, others I'll have to think about further. I'll ask you a few questions on your reasons later. Prophecy 18:50, 4 October 2008 (EDT)
I'll post your suggestions and my thoughts on the discussion page of the article so everyone can participate. I'll start with a few and add the rest sometimes later. Prophecy 05:26, 5 October 2008 (EDT)
Please do not delete your version in your workspace. As you might see, I'm proceeding slowly, very slowly through your suggestions and my article... The origin of her name has taken an interesting turn, by the way. Thank you for suggesting more sourcing for this section; I found that I was completely wrong about the -vich behind her name. :-) Prophecy 17:52, 13 October 2008 (EDT)

Virginia Bell

I was browsing around and I found clips of an 8mm with Virginia Bell from some forum. Since you did some work on her article/filmography, thought I'd ask you. Interested? Apara 09:18, 7 October 2008 (EDT)

Yeah I figured them out. I didn't have much trouble. Though I did forget the link to them. Apara 18:44, 7 October 2008 (EDT)
Thanks Dekkappai. I'll be sure to save those in my favorites, so I won't forget. Apara 01:36, 8 October 2008 (EDT)

Server

Yes, I noticed it too... Don't know if this is a busy time in the US, here it's late in the evening... I did not save anything spectacular, so I don't know where it comes from... Prophecy 16:53, 7 October 2008 (EDT)

Navigation templates

Unfortunately, we haven't, in this case. I noticed that they have an allround metatemplate on Wikipedia which you can fill with all kind of content so if would even work if you'd like to create a navigation template for all the moles on Dominno's body - but when I saw the template, I realised it was such an immense work to implement that here that I resigned for the moment... Prophecy 16:57, 14 October 2008 (EDT)

Books

Of course there will be a publication template. Some day... :-) The disadvantage I see in the magazine appearances table format is only one single: Our beloved server. We saw that the filmography entries cause it to break down, so the magazine appearances table will do the same... :-( Prophecy 16:20, 17 October 2008 (EDT)

Ahem...

Software update? I did not know anything about it until you told me... I then discovered the message on the main page. Well, the server is very slow so far... let's hope that's just the starting problems of a fast-working template-friendly era! :-) Prophecy 21:16, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, it's not really letting me look at anything besides User/User talk pages and the main page. Apara 22:07, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

image uploading fixed

as if you didn't know already :) anything else just let me know. --Hexvoodoo 20:50, 7 November 2008 (EST)

Notes

Yes, it was intentional. The Notes field was planned only for filmographies, as I saw that many people add them. Normally only for filmographies without templates, to be able to add stuff. Well, but I see that my creations grow and people find many ways to use them... But generally I think a field like Notes shouldn't be included in an infobox, as an article is the place to add notes. (And I admit I don't have the time to add this to the infobox. :-) ) Some of my late pictures and articles were corrupted due to the server update, so I'm busy repairing them... Hope you don't mind.

Regards

Prophecy 14:04, 11 November 2008 (EST)

Well...

...let's do our thing, and they do theirs... here on Boobpedia the criteria are simple: bigger than B -> include. I like that. I wouldn't feel capable of judging if a performer is notable or not with all these "soft" criteria.

Prophecy 10:20, 19 November 2008 (EST)

Hm, Mr. Kizu could be interesting, but all I know of him is that he's sooooo strict with his copyright! That's why I kind of dislike him - He has discovered a great model, but (to be frank) I seriously doubt his skills as a photographer. He should allow this girl to work with other fine art photographers. It's such a pity...
Prophecy 15:00, 19 November 2008 (EST)

Japan where I did not expect it

I don't know if you are interested in and familiar with Nadine Jansen, Milena Velba and their guest models - but if so, did you ever wonder why the pictorials of these (more mainstream/glamour) models often show elements of breast bondage, role play and manga? Or why there are videos of Bettie Ballhaus and Nadine Jansen walking through Tokyo?

Well, I just found out while expanding the article on Bernd Daktari Lorenz, their photographer. Now everything makes sense...

Regards

Prophecy

Oooh! Thanks! I remember seeing a Tokyo Topless gallery with a Japanese model and his name when I collected material, but I lost the link and couldn't find it again when expanding the article. Here's the Mariko Morikawa gallery . There are guest galleries of Bettie Ballhaus, Nadine Jansen and Milena Velba on Tokyo Topless, too. It's a pleasure to work with you!
P. S.: Ah, there's one other gallery of a certain Julia that Lorenz did: http://tokyotopless.com/model/Julia/03/ Do you know anything about her? Besides the Morikawa gallery, this is the only one credited to Tokyo Topless and not to bettie-b.de, nadine-j.de or milena-velba.de like the other ones. I could not find her name on Boobpedia. Prophecy 11:34, 20 November 2008 (EST)
Oh, this would be cool if you started a stub... Don't forget to add [[Category:Bernd Daktari Lorenz models]]. :-) For Sofia Rose: Thorough work! And this is what Boobpedia needs. I only got back to my Bernd Lorenz article because I was doing something completely different: Browsing through German model databases, because some models and photographers were linked there. But then I saw a face and thought - don't I know her? It was a model who appeared on nadine-j.de long ago, I searched everywhere for her, but they gave her another name, so nothing came up. I have found two more Bernd Lorenz models in these databases, and nobody knows about it! I never thought it would be possible to keep some kind of "privacy" or "non-fame" if you once appeared on a site like nadine-j.de. I'll write the articles soon... Prophecy 17:00, 20 November 2008 (EST)

Pin ups in Japan

Hi Dekkappai,

I've been meaning to ask you, if Japan had any pin up publications, models, etc? Since the only ones I know of are from the Western world. Apara 01:06, 24 November 2008 (EST)

I see, could you name a couple models if you can? Apara 01:51, 24 November 2008 (EST)
Thanks for the information, if you look at my user page and the articles I start here. You'll noticed I don't go past 1975 pin up related. Since to me, the art of it died then (which is probably why the popularity of Betty Page boosted in the 80s). So you can probably suspect my definition based on that. Apara 02:40, 24 November 2008 (EST)

Japanese categories

Hi Dekkappai,

I had several messages that day, so I did not notice that you added to my talk page too, sorry. I'll have a look at the categories. Prophecy 05:16, 25 November 2008 (EST)

The division into "Directorname films" is good, same as in Category:Photos. I'll look at your second question. Prophecy 08:32, 25 November 2008 (EST)
Yes, the Tokyo Topless merging is definitely wrong. It creates a monster article - and not even an article, because it will no longer be listed as an article. I did the same in the beginning with my photographer articles: Putting the article on top of the category. There are two huge disadvantages:
  • First of all: The photographer page was not listed in the results when the serach box was used. Categories are not listed. So it was as if the photographers weren't there at all.
  • Second: The articles became to long, and if you wanted to look for the mere category, i. e. a list of models shot by this photographer, you couldn't find them, because some articles became so long that you did not expect to find list of models at the end of it. (Cf. Katja Ehrhardt for example).
I think the Honorable did this in good faith, but I cannot second that at all. Please leave him a message and revert the merge. Feel free to cite my opinion. Prophecy 09:30, 25 November 2008 (EST)

Tokyo Topless

I was experimenting. :) I've undone the merges; hopefully I got them all. The Honorable 11:13, 27 November 2008 (EST)

BMI

Yes, a few months ago a new user who was very keen on programming introduced it. I found it too complicated too and never used it. The user has vanished too... But feel free to use it if you like! :-) Prophecy 22:42, 4 December 2008 (EST)

Naming

I say preserve the pun. :) The Honorable 18:48, 5 December 2008 (EST)

Liberty

Hi Dekkappai,

yes, of course these sculptures would qualify, I've already planned something with them. But they are not boob slips, because it was somewhat normal that at least one breast was exposed. So they belong in the "open bust" category - the category already exists and contains open bust clothes, and I'm planning to write an article on this some day. And yes, during my research for statues, I came across the American bigottery of course; it was Ashcroft. An article about this is already hidden in the references for Wardrobe malfunction: http://www.fineartregistry.com/articles/altabe_joan/artwork-nudity-letter46.php :-) Prophecy 09:48, 6 December 2008 (EST)

Go ahead. Category:Films and videos by genre is there now. You could create subcategories like "BBW videos" and stuff. Prophecy 13:50, 7 December 2008 (EST)

database problems

yes tech performed a repair on the database. good to hear that the problem has been fixed :) --Hexvoodoo 13:50, 7 December 2008 (EST)

Amazon jp affiliate links

Alas, I think the template only works with American Amazons. :) You can continue to add it manually to Amazon JP listings if you want. The Honorable 21:51, 9 December 2008 (EST)

Chesty

When I saw her movie Deadly Weapons, she looked to be middled aged. In her later films, she does look a bit older. So the 1928 birth could be accurate and she's mostly like well into her 80s of now. I read somewhere she died in the 1980's, which is absurd and tottaly false. Her cup size doesn't seem to appear anywhere that I've look and I know she's bigger than an FF/G. So we can only go by her measurements. I've looked for info on her in the past and sort of ended up empty handed and wasn't aware of her interview with Gent. Apara 01:28, 20 December 2008 (EST)

Seeing as you're creating a Chesty Morgan article from the ground up. I've been thinking of re-doing the Vicky Kennedy article I made earlier this year. Someone added the article from Wikipedia and I rarely touched since. Like how I re-did the article for Rosina Revelle. Apara 03:44, 25 December 2008 (EST)
Thanks for the notes. I used a bit of it for the article on Goldfinger. I think I found all that I can find for now. Apara
Nice work on Chesty Morgan! FYI, supposedly Busty Russell was her inspiration. Maybe you read that from the research? Apara 00:20, 31 December 2008 (EST)

Do you happen to know.....

Who this is? http://www.moodyz.com/shop/-/detail/=/cid=mia391/ Apara 05:09, 3 January 2009 (EST)

Happy New Year

Just stopped by to say how agreeable your company as a fellow editor is - now that I know others.

Prophecy 06:50, 6 January 2009 (EST)

Fuko

AV work? Uh oh ah! If only there weren't all these pixelations... I guess you as a connoisseur are already used to spot the things behind the pixels, like Superman with his X-ray eyes? Tell me your technique some day, please, so that I can enjoy Japanese pictorials and videos more... :-) Prophecy 18:38, 6 January 2009 (EST)

Harumi: Wasn't me. :-) Prophecy 23:04, 6 January 2009 (EST)

Reference

I might have, but not on purpose. I didn't notice, sorry about that. Apara 01:28, 7 January 2009 (EST)

Sugguestion

For Momoko Okada‎, you could put all the info in one Biobox and label the measurements/cup size as the name she used. For example, "100cm/G metric as 'so and so'". So it won't look too messy. Apara 03:17, 13 January 2009 (EST)

...thanks for the input, Apara... I'd considered that too, but thought it would make things a bit confusing, since, possibly, we're going to find different bio info under each name (these bios are are probably about as "real" as the stage names are). Also, I wonder how grouping all the data into one infobox that way would affect categories like "Cup size". With the three infoboxes, it puts the article into each category (as, I think, it should). Would listing several cup sizes in one infobox cause some sort of technical foul-up? And, actually, if I write up more on the model (she does interest me enough to devote some time to building up the article :-), I think I could make a separate bio section under each name, and put the infobox into the section for each name. Perhaps that will help the article look cleaner?... Dekkappai 16:13, 13 January 2009 (EST)
Separate bio sections would make it look cleaner. I think putting her current measurements/cup size on one biobox and putting her others under the categories. Also refer to them in that separate bio section. So when a observer reads them. It wouldn't be too confusing. So basically, Biobox of current name/stats/whatever else, then bio section of her with whatever name she used to known as, what she did, refer to her stats then, categorize them and so on. That's what I would do. But something can complicate this. I can't really think of anything that might would. Apara 20:43, 13 January 2009 (EST)
That sounds like it might work. Actually, I merged the article into her first name... But, as I told Prophecy, I will mark this article for research-- she's a subject who has interested me in all three of her names (before I knew they were all the same person). So I'll put the information together, and then see what looks like it will work best. I'll ask from input from you and the others when it starts falling into shape. Thanks again. Dekkappai 22:30, 13 January 2009 (EST)

Same person

Hi Dekkappai,

without having a look at the article — when I discover that measurements differ in several sources, I don't fill them in the biobox, but discuss them in a special section in the article text. That is what always should be done if sources differ. I think we can transfer this principle to your case too. I was just thinking of Linsey Dawn McKenzie who had a breast reduction and whose biobox still keeps her maximum bust size (as an homage I presume) :-). The proper way (for both your model and Linsey) would be to write a [see article] in the corresponding biobox field, with a link to the section where you mention the development (measurements, for example, is a free text field). Autometed fields like Bra size must be left empty, and the corresponding categories added manually at the bottom of the article. Prophecy 16:36, 13 January 2009 (EST)

But it's only the measurements that change, isn't it? Having several bioboxes in one article poses the problem that bioboxes normally are put at the top of a page, with no way to change that. So you won't be able to put a biobox in a section further down an article, as far as I know... They'll be all at the top of the article. Prophecy 16:43, 13 January 2009 (EST)
This would be a precedence and a rare exception to Boobpedia, but if you think it's necessary to make three different articles (and if you have enough stuff to make all three of them more than a stub) — go ahead. I am still in favour of one single article. Prophecy 16:50, 13 January 2009 (EST)

Please complare

Talk:Linafay Can you help me? Prophecy 16:29, 15 January 2009 (EST)

Can You Please Contact Me off of Boopedia?

I would appreciate it as I have a few things to ask you. Primarily from what I read on The Honurable's talk page and your interpretation of what was written on FUKO's wikipedia page I'm frankly saddened that you are willing to be "Boobpedia snitch." It serves no purpose to the truth in Boobs which no, you do not own a pair of, to be so nasty towards someone who really respects understands and is standing up for breasts as you seem to be. I question why, if you honor Boobs as much as you claim to, would you even mention a very important debate that occurred off this website. You seemed so amiable as well! I also have other things to ask you. Thanks signed BreastKing 20:03, 23 January 2009 (EDT)

Bettie Page

Hey Dekkappai

I was wondering if you have any interest in Bettie Page. I was thinking of rewriting the article and getting rid of the GDFL. Apara 17:56, 10 February 2009 (EST)

Excellent! You can send them as a JPEG to my e-mail. I would ask you to send them as the PDFs, but I think my Adobe apps are screwy. Apara 17:56, 10 February 2009 (EST)
Yeah I've been meaning to tell you, that I did. I haven't gotten around to read all of them yet. Apara 19:27, 19 February 2009 (EST)

Sofia Rose

The image limit is only for fair use images, so we don't get sued. :) If the images are directly from Sofia, you can use as many as you like.

We could certainly re-feature Sofia, now that she's been interviewed again. Our first two-time interviewee! The Honorable 18:08, 2 March 2009 (EST)


Kelly Shibari

I didn't realized that page already existed. She looked fimilar, but I couldn't put my finger on it. If noticed, I would of reverted it. Apara 18:33, 4 March 2009 (EST)

Kelly Shibari

My source is actually Kelly Shibari. She was on Instant Messenger with me at the time and verified all the information that was put into the article. I don't know exactly what to do here, is there possibly an email address I can have her write to to verify that it was her who gave me the information? - Kaobear 06:43, 5 March 2009 (EST)

Let me go ahead and talk with ehr and i will get back to you as soon as possible. If she does say yes i would most definately appreciate any help that you could give me on the matter. - Kaobear 10:51, 5 March 2009 (EST)
I can always ask her if she would like to do an interview with you if you like. get your own perspective on things and what not. - Kaobear 06:53, 6 March 2009 (EST)
I have created Kelly_Shibari/Interview_With_Kelly_Shibari , could you help me source the article using that page please? Thank you for all of your help. - Kaobear 06:31, 7 March 2009 (EST)
Thank you for all your help. - Kaobear 07:35, 8 March 2009 (EDT)

Back

Glad to know you'll be back! I couldn't answer you yesterday because the page did not load when I tried...

Regards

Prophecy

Producer template

Hi Dekkappai,

I think you should just post an image (logo) at the right top of the page like I did for articles that do not have a template like breast bondage or adhesive tape. The {{Manufacturer}} template would not work. It has some general company information, but it lacks additional fields for specific data of a film company or studio. Apart from this, I'd like to have it a different colour scheme. :-)

Apara also asked me if we should not have a publication/magazine/book template, and I have also thought of a website template. I think I should start programming again some day... :-)

Regards

Prophecy 18:39, 27 March 2009 (EDT)

Sample clips

I see no problem with linking to clips posted by an official source (producer, distributor, etc.). Link away! The Honorable 21:10, 29 March 2009 (EDT)

There are worse things to be bombarded with... :) The Honorable 21:27, 29 March 2009 (EDT)

Template problem

Hi Dekkappai,

I experienced the same problem too. I think your way is a good solution. Another way I sometimes use then I edit other parts of an article containing a filmography: I comment the filmography out (<!-- -->) while working on the article and remove the comment tags when I finally save it. So the page loads quickly during the editing process.

Regards

Prophecy 08:04, 3 April 2009 (EDT)

Re: Older, less-busty busty series?

I think your suggestion ("Maybe just start the series articles, and not articles on the individual actresses/videos?") sounds fine. The Honorable 21:01, 14 April 2009 (EDT)

Template Lists

Do you know how to make template list, like the DanniGirls one? Cost 05:58, 7 May 2009 (EDT)

Hi, Cost. I had not noticed this sort of list template. You can see from most of my articles-- actress articles such as Hana Uehara or list articles such as List of Cinema Unit GAS DVDs: 2009-- that I've been using the filmography templates quite a bit. I didn't know about this type of list template... I'm not sure that the articles I work on could use this format though... I'll investigate it more. Thanks for pointing this out! Dekkappai 09:24, 7 May 2009 (EDT)
On second thought... I came across a list of the ranking of busty and BBW actresses by month and year at a particular site... maybe I could use this for that. It seems to me that the list would be better with an image of the actress though. Dekkappai 16:23, 7 May 2009 (EDT)
I've made film templates before, and they're pretty straightforward. Penthouse Pets (which is 4.5 years out of date btw) also has a group of templates like that. See Sunny Leone for example. It seems Prophecy made the latest one, so I'll ask him. Cost 10:22, 8 May 2009 (EDT)

List templates

Hi Dekkappai,

you mentioned that the list templates on the model pages offer an advantage, while you couldn't see an advantage of the list templates on the list pages. Well - there are three advantages:

  1. They are both one and the same template! Just have a look at {{2007_dannigirls}} for example. It's explained in the documentation. If you add nothing, it appears as a navbox, if you add style=list, it becomes a list.
  2. This once said, the second advantage seems obvious: Once an update is made to the template (for example when a new model in the current year is added), the change appears both on the model pages and in each and every list on Boobpedia.
  3. As it was sometimes difficult to decide whether a vintage playmate has a C cup or not, I left the decision to the people who would write an article on the model one day. The model name appears as normal black if there is no article yet, but if someone writes an article on the model, her name turns into a link both in every navbox and every list on Boobpedia. So this way of mentioning the models is highly future-compatible.

About the thumbs - This is a thought which I carry with me since a long time. It would be possible. Photographer templates already have a thumb: Martin Perreault It's the photo in the biobox of the article, but it's added manually to the template. So if someone changes the picture in the article, it will not be changed in the template. And this is the problem: So far, only very few editors have written articles on photographers, and the probability that someone changes a picture is neglectable. But the biobox pictures of female models are changed quite often, and unfortunately there is absolutely no way of saying: "Take the picture from the corresponding biobox" to a template. Well, there is a way: The biobox could have different styles, just like the film template has: As an infobox on a page, but only as a list entry in a list. But there is one huge disadvantage which makes it impossible to implement this feature: You already know how slow a page gets if you have 10 films in a filmography. Now imagine a page with 100 models listed on it! It would just look like a page with 100 single text lines, but actually it is a page with 100 full bioboxes, including all the huge and complex code a "normal" biobox contains - together with 33 other templates included in each and every biobox. Tried on one page, this would instantly knock Boobpedia's server out.

There is no way to "exclude" the complex code and other templates if a biobox is just displayed as a list entry. They are always there. Unfortunately. So my answer is:

No, thumbnails are not possible. :-(

Prophecy 16:54, 8 May 2009 (EDT)

Model ID request

By all means, feel free to post ID requests. :) The Honorable 20:14, 18 May 2009 (EDT)

Voluptuous Body Type Category

True, it is easy to toe the line between busty and voluptuous but I really meant for the term to describe females who are not only busty but have curves and a healthy butt. Also remember that voluptuous does not necessarily mean "big-boobed". For eg. Roselyn Sanchez is voluptuous yet she only has B-cups. The reason why I don't want to settle with just removing average and just throwing people in categories which best describe them is that I believe in accuracy. A body type should be something that helps define the women on this site. Some guys like ladies on the skinnier end and others (like me) prefer the thicker chicks. Inaccuracies will result in persons who like to come here and search through the body types of their preference possibly feeling disgruntled. Speaking of accuracy, what then do you do with ladies such as Kim Kardashian. She is clearly not "skinny" and clearly not "chubby", so where does that leave her? Average is not an accurate description.

I understand that the cateogries may be subjective but I believe this is a legit body type.

--DuanCulo 20:29, 11 August 2009 (EDT)

Good points, Duan. Like I say though, I'm not a fan of the whole category, and usually don't use it at all. You'll have to talk to other editors to get it implemented. Regards. Dekkappai 22:14, 11 August 2009 (EDT)

Main Page activity

A good suggestion. I've changed the Main Page's discussion page so that it can be used to post suggestions for the main page. Suggest away! :) The Honorable 21:35, 22 January 2010 (EST)

would like to feature some japanese models

hi dekk,

i'd like to get some suggestions from you as to what some of your favourite japanese model articles are. i plan to put at least three on the main page in the near future, one as a featured article, and the other two in the "busty women you may not know" section. i'm sure you have some good ones in mind. thanks in advance! --Hexvoodoo 17:52, 25 August 2010 (EDT)

thanks for the recommendations. i have put them on my to do list --Hexvoodoo 20:58, 2 September 2010 (EDT)

Deletions

Sorry about that -- I was deleting images on the [unused files list], and they were on it for some reason. I will un-delete them posthaste. The Honorable 16:37, 1 October 2010 (EDT)

Real names

We've removed real names and birth names from the biobox, and per Boobpedia:Policy, will only permit them now if the article subject has released it or doesn't mind it being known, and there's a reference. For example, Jenna Jameson gives her real name in her autobiography, so that's fine; Angelina Jolie's full birth name is widely known, so that's fine. But if the article subject doesn't want their real name publicized, then it's not allowed here.

And I had been wondering what those Japanese characters in the "real name" field were; thanks for enlightening me. :) The Honorable 17:23, 11 July 2011 (EDT)

Re: Boin "Holly James" Box / Holly James

Hey D, they are two different Holly James. The one I posted (and now there is a photo) is the Holly James I had in mind. I think she is British Iranian. Silicone Valley 21:45, 20 September 2011 (EDT)

image redirect

hi dekk, i looked into this. all recent versions of mediawiki have this problem, but there is a hack for it. i've used that fix and it should be working properly now. --Hexvoodoo 19:10, 22 September 2011 (EDT)

Hikari Hino

hmm i edited that page because it was in category:Playboy NSS models. i don't know who tagged that article with that category, but i have to add the template to every article in the category. --Hexvoodoo 00:46, 4 October 2011 (EDT)

Image size

You'll have to talk to Hexvoodoo about that; I don't think I have access to configure that. The Honorable 23:09, 21 January 2012 (EST)

Re: Welcome

Hi, Dekkappai

Thanks for the Welcome! I love japanese models and i'll try create more articles about them! Battlekenya 22 January 2012 (EST)

Only one nude picture

Athanatophobos 23 January 2012

Hello,

It's not really a rule, but I know The Honorable said that would be good if we put only one nude picture of the Boobpedia models in their pages.

So, I try to do that when I see several nude photos of the models by keeping just one of them. The pages are cleaner like that.

Sorry for my English, I'm French. I hope you understood me.

Regards.

Thanks a lot

Athanatophobos 25 January 2012

Hello,

Thanks for your congratulations. There are millions glamour models on Earth, so there is a lot of works on Boobpedia. I hope my work is good. I will keep on adding pages about these beautiful women around the world.

Ditto. Thanks also, Dekkapai. I can see that you've put in a lot of quality work over the years. --Loose cannon 11:22, 25 January 2012 (EST)
Well, thank you too! Dekkappai 16:05, 25 January 2012 (EST)

DMM

Hello, Dekkappai! It's really strange, because i'm able to use the DMM website and i'm from outside Japan too! (i'm from Brazil). the DMM site changed and some olds links that used for reference are not available anymore! but I've not any problemm to acess the site! I don't know how can i help you now! Battlekenya00:10, 19 April 2012 (EDT)

Re: Great Work

I did know about the lower restriction! i'm trying to put all madonna's movie. but some movies has F-Cup actress or lower. for example, Yu Kawakami is D-Cup, probably, her article and movies will be excluded, right?

Thanks for the warning! Battlekenya 12:14, 22 August 2012 (EDT)

Blog hosts

Have you looked into Tumblr? I don't know if it's quite what you're looking for, but it is free, and there's all kinds of porn on it. :) The Honorable 20:01, 1 October 2012 (EDT)

Hi Honorable. I wasn't aware Tumblr was a blog host, but God knows I've swiped-- er, borrowed-- plenty of images from it through the years... I'll look into it! Thanks! Dekkappai 23:46, 1 October 2012 (EDT)

Hey, congratulations on making the IMDb top contributors list! The Honorable 17:02, 4 January 2013 (EST)

Thanks, Honorable! Unfortunately I've been neglecting work here for IMDb. Most of those Pink Films I'm working on over there don't fit into Boobpedia's "notability" standards ;-) Once I'm done over there, I'll dig in here again! Happy New Year to you and all our fellow Boobpedians! Dekkappai 14:10, 7 January 2013 (EST)

I wonder?

How do I know which pictures are copyright? For example, all picture in Tia (AV idol).Manzzzz

Hi, Manzzzz. My understanding is that they're all in copyright, and we are using them under Fair Use practice as commentary/illustration of the subject-- the actress or the video. But I wouldn't be the one to ask about this... Hexvoodoo or The Honorable can give you Boobpedia's policies on this better than I... Cheers! Dekkappai 02:56, 19 May 2013 (EDT)

JAV reviews

Sure, as long as you don't add a bunch of galleries and spam links to your reviews. :) The Honorable 15:04, 8 September 2013 (EDT)

Election of 2016

Making an unauthorized political statement by removing Ivanka Trump from my watch list... Shit... Eleanor Roosevelt had much better tits... and they were natural!... Dekkappai (talk) 22:26, 14 November 2016 (EST)

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